southsider2k5 Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 This is the actual spot to make your draft day discussions, predictions and reactions to the 2018 MLB draft. WARNING, there maybe spoilers in this thread. Read at your own risk! With that said, now let's hear your final predictions... who do the White Sox pick with the #4 pick in the draft today? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 Singer and lots of complaining on twitter by Sox fans that say we already have too much pitching. These same fans also tweet whenever Kopech does bad to say rebuild is failing because Kopech, Giolito and Fulmer are busts. Thank god I'm not on twitter have a good draft day everyone! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTruth05 Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 Madrigal/India/Bohm, gimme 1 of those guys and we're good. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 4, 2018 Author Share Posted June 4, 2018 17 minutes ago, fathom said: Singer and lots of complaining on twitter by Sox fans that say we already have too much pitching. These same fans also tweet whenever Kopech does bad to say rebuild is failing because Kopech, Giolito and Fulmer are busts. Thank god I'm not on twitter have a good draft day everyone! fathom is in mid game thread form! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 Once the Draft Tracker goes live, this thread will be closed, and there will be a thread pinned in PHT for the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yesterday333 Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 24 minutes ago, TheTruth05 said: Madrigal/India/Bohm, gimme 1 of those guys and we're good. yes...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 Wsd thinks it's Singer also now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sticky Stuff Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 I love Carter Stewart’s ceiling. Wish the Sox had the balls to take a chance then play it safe this draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenericUserName Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 52 minutes ago, fathom said: Singer and lots of complaining on twitter by Sox fans that say we already have too much pitching. These same fans also tweet whenever Kopech does bad to say rebuild is failing because Kopech, Giolito and Fulmer are busts. Thank god I'm not on twitter have a good draft day everyone! So is this not the place to put my 53 page rant on the state of the organization if we pick Singer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenericUserName Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 2 minutes ago, fathom said: Wsd thinks it's Singer also now I think he's just guessing like the rest of us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 I can talk myself into most picks, but man I just don't like singer at all. He's going to be shut down after CWS. He'll come back next year and by June his velo will be down and we'll be like "oh but he just knows how to pitch" and then it will be the slow painful experience of watching a wasted draft pick get shelled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrlesque Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 I want Madrigal, and I think the Sox want Singer. My prediction is that the Phillies take one of Madrigal or Singer at 3, and the Sox take whichever is left at 4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 1 minute ago, GenericUserName said: I think he's just guessing like the rest of us. Agreed but since I said the other day he thought Madrigal, just wanted to get this out there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 Just now, bmags said: I can talk myself into most picks, but man I just don't like singer at all. He's going to be shut down after CWS. He'll come back next year and by June his velo will be down and we'll be like "oh but he just knows how to pitch" and then it will be the slow painful experience of watching a wasted draft pick get shelled. The scary part about Singer is if he's the type of college pitcher who loses 1-2 mph in the pros due to 4 day rest and not 6 day rest, then you're talking about a very mediocre velocity from right starter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 Just now, bmags said: I can talk myself into most picks, but man I just don't like singer at all. He's going to be shut down after CWS. He'll come back next year and by June his velo will be down and we'll be like "oh but he just knows how to pitch" and then it will be the slow painful experience of watching a wasted draft pick get shelled. But I'm often wrong, and the devil's advocate to this pick is Singer, according to the mlb mock draft, is in the top 3 for every top 5 pick. That should be reassuring but I'm not sure how I feel about any of these top 5 org's in terms of talent evals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 1 minute ago, fathom said: The scary part about Singer is if he's the type of college pitcher who loses 1-2 mph in the pros due to 4 day rest and not 6 day rest, then you're talking about a very mediocre velocity from right starter Yes, this is exactly what I mean. What does an 88-90 mph, tops out at 92 SInger look like. It's why I get so tired of the "he's just the safest pick" stuff, college, developed pitching falls apart just like the rest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 Just now, bmags said: Yes, this is exactly what I mean. What does an 88-90 mph, tops out at 92 SInger look like. It's why I get so tired of the "he's just the safest pick" stuff, college, developed pitching falls apart just like the rest. Especially given that Cooper doesn't stress velocity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 Anyway, I'll try not to derail everything. I am very excited for our round 2 pick, and thankful we did not sign a cheapie Moustakas and miss out on it. You could throw like 15-20 names and I'd nod along to all of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maggsmaggs Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 10 minutes ago, fathom said: The scary part about Singer is if he's the type of college pitcher who loses 1-2 mph in the pros due to 4 day rest and not 6 day rest, then you're talking about a very mediocre velocity from right starter I have no clue what Singer's velocity was pre-hamstring injury, but maybe his lack of 93-95 velocity this past Saturday had to do with the hamstring injury not being fully healed. Just a throwing that out there. B/c there is a huge difference in performance capabilities when you are at 95 MPH with movement versus 89-90 with movement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 When the talent available all falls in the same "tier," I think choosing a hitter is the objectively correct choice. Pitchers simply have more that can go wrong with their health. Among the hitters, I think the Hit tool is the rarest, most difficult to develop, and the one the White Sox have shown the least ability to develop. Therefore it is most coveted, IMO. The clear answer then becomes Madrigal. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 1 minute ago, maggsmaggs said: I have no clue what Singer's velocity was pre-hamstring injury, but maybe his lack of 93-95 velocity this past Saturday had to do with the hamstring injury not being fully healed. Just a throwing that out there. B/c there is a huge difference in performance capabilities when you are at 95 MPH with movement versus 89-90 with movement. My brother saw him around 91-92 in a game prior to injury. If he was consistently at 95 like he was in CWS last year, he'd be a Tigers draftee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rowand's rowdies Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 Haven't seen much of Singer but I'm getting a Carson Fulmer vibe... Can someone explain the similarities/differences of those two in college? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 4, 2018 Author Share Posted June 4, 2018 18 minutes ago, bmags said: I can talk myself into most picks, but man I just don't like singer at all. He's going to be shut down after CWS. He'll come back next year and by June his velo will be down and we'll be like "oh but he just knows how to pitch" and then it will be the slow painful experience of watching a wasted draft pick get shelled. FWIW, college pitchers are MUCH less likely to go through the velocity losses versus HS pitchers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 1 minute ago, rowand's rowdies said: Haven't seen much of Singer but I'm getting a Carson Fulmer vibe... Can someone explain the similarities/differences of those two in college? Singer can pitch to contact, Fulmer never could. Not similar stuff st all. Singer has fastball command Fulmer could only dream of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 4, 2018 Author Share Posted June 4, 2018 3 minutes ago, Eminor3rd said: When the talent available all falls in the same "tier," I think choosing a hitter is the objectively correct choice. Pitchers simply have more that can go wrong with their health. Among the hitters, I think the Hit tool is the rarest, most difficult to develop, and the one the White Sox have shown the least ability to develop. Therefore it is most coveted, IMO. The clear answer then becomes Madrigal. The other side of the coin is that when it comes to the White Sox, I trust their ability to develop a pitcher about infinity times more than a hitter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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