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BlackSox13 Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 48 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: Another pretty little dude who had one hell of a career is someone we all know and love who is managing in our minor league system right now. I love Ray Durham! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 3 minutes ago, BlackSox13 said: I love Ray Durham! Another great call. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 1 minute ago, southsider2k5 said: Another great call. It's funny because Ray popped in my head and was looking him up in another window to see his height (5'8") and when I came here to mention his name I read your post. Ya beat me to it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 Just now, BlackSox13 said: It's funny because Ray popped in my head and was looking him up in another window to see his height (5'8") and when I came here to mention his name I read your post. Ya beat me to it! Oh wait, I was actually talking about Omar Vizquel, so take full credit for Ray! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 11 minutes ago, BlackSox13 said: I love Ray Durham! Is he managing in our minor league system? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 3 hours ago, WBWSF said: I keep reading that Madrigal will be a shortstop when he plays in the minors. If that is true does that mean the White Sox will not bid on free agent Manny Machado this upcoming off season? The plan this offseason should be to bid on both Machado & Harper and hope you can land one of them. Obviously a huge long-shot, but given our payroll flexibility you don't let Madrigal impact our decision to pursue these guys. However, just for the sake of fun, here's how I'd see things shaking out if we added Machado: 1B: Davidson 2B: Madrigal SS: Anderson 3B: Machado LF: Jimenez CF: Robert RF: Moncada DH: Abreu ? Collins That lineup would be absolutely bonkers and wound't even include a half dozen high-end prospects (Burger, Sheets, Basabe, Adolfo, Rutherford, Gonzalez, Walker). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFirebird Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 41 minutes ago, BlackSox13 said: I love Ray Durham! One of my favorite players growing up....probably because I played 2B in HS as a short guy. I still wear Ray's jersey to most games I go to. If Madrigal works out....he will probably become my favorite player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 36 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: Oh wait, I was actually talking about Omar Vizquel, so take full credit for Ray! Lol, don't know how I forgot about Omar. D'oh! Wasn't Ray a minor league coach at some point for the Sox? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFirebird Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 40 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: Oh wait, I was actually talking about Omar Vizquel, so take full credit for Ray! I am growing tired of Rickey's managing skills...I hope that Omar is being setup to take over in 1/2 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 (edited) 22 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: The plan this offseason should be to bid on both Machado & Harper and hope you can land one of them. Obviously a huge long-shot, but given our payroll flexibility you don't let Madrigal impact our decision to pursue these guys. However, just for the sake of fun, here's how I'd see things shaking out if we added Machado: 1B: Davidson 2B: Madrigal SS: Anderson 3B: Machado LF: Jimenez CF: Robert RF: Moncada DH: Abreu ? Collins That lineup would be absolutely bonkers and wound't even include a half dozen high-end prospects (Burger, Sheets, Basabe, Adolfo, Rutherford, Gonzalez, Walker). Personally I prefer C- Collins 1B- Jimenez 2B- Moncada SS- Anderson 3B- Machado LF- Madrigal CF- Robert RF- Adolfo DH- Abreu/Davidson That way you keep the established, proven defenders where they are but still get Madrigal’s bat in there Edited June 7, 2018 by Jose Abreu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFirebird Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 1 minute ago, Jose Abreu said: Personally I prefer C- Collins 1B- Jimenez 2B- Moncada SS- Anderson 3B- Machado LF- Madrigal CF- Robert RF- Adolfo DH- Abreu/Davidson That way you keep the established, proven defenders where they are but still get Madrigal’s bat in there Jimenez at 1B is interesting to me. His bat can play there obviously and you would protect him from injury and get better defenders in the OF. I wonder if he has ever played there at any time in his life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 4 minutes ago, BFirebird said: One of my favorite players growing up....probably because I played 2B in HS as a short guy. I still wear Ray's jersey to most games I go to. If Madrigal works out....he will probably become my favorite player. I was a big fan of Ray as well. Loved the diversity of his game. He could hit, run like the wind, throw some leather and flash some power on occasion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 I think another interesting comp for Madrigal would be David Eckstein. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 4 minutes ago, BlackSox13 said: I think another interesting comp for Madrigal would be David Eckstein. I hope he’s much better than Eckstein. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 17 minutes ago, BlackSox13 said: Lol, don't know how I forgot about Omar. D'oh! Wasn't Ray a minor league coach at some point for the Sox? I don't remember Ray doing it, Willie Harris perhaps? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 14 minutes ago, BFirebird said: I am growing tired of Rickey's managing skills...I hope that Omar is being setup to take over in 1/2 years. I am going to say this much. The team outperforming its talents by the most in the Sox system isn't Vizquel's, it is Kannapolis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxfan49 Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 20 minutes ago, Jose Abreu said: Personally I prefer C- Collins 1B- Jimenez 2B- Moncada SS- Anderson 3B- Machado LF- Madrigal CF- Robert RF- Adolfo DH- Abreu/Davidson That way you keep the established, proven defenders where they are but still get Madrigal’s bat in there I wish there was another LHH or two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: I hope he’s much better than Eckstein. I think he will be, without a doubt. To me Madrigal has more speed and should easily hit for more power. 9 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: I don't remember Ray doing it, Willie Harris perhaps? That's who I was thinking of. Thanks! Edited June 7, 2018 by BlackSox13 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 13 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: I hope he’s much better than Eckstein. I know it is three days after we drafted the guy, but I am going to call a David Eckstein comp his floor. He has already tools which are major league ready in his speed, his eye, and his bat. If he develops any power at all, he goes to the next level. As is, I think Nick is a guy who could put up .270/.350/.350 as is, while adding ++ defense at 2B. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 3 minutes ago, BlackSox13 said: I think he will be, without a doubt. To me Madrigal has more speed and should easily hit for more power. That's who I was thinking of. Thanks! Willie was another pretty short dude. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dam8610 Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 1 hour ago, BlackSox13 said: I love Ray Durham! 5'8" with consistent 15-20 HR pop and .800 OPS. I like the comp, but the only problem I have is that @greg775, @ptatc, @Lillian and others keep assuring me that such a result for Madrigal is impossible due to his height. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 38 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: I am going to say this much. The team outperforming its talents by the most in the Sox system isn't Vizquel's, it is Kannapolis. Yeah, although it's a fairly old group. But 2 years in a row now. Big fan of Jirschele, and he may be more of the modern manager that is an extension of the front office/org. Though not sure sox org is set-up to take advantage of that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 30 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: Willie was another pretty short dude. Yep. The list of successful short players continues to grow. Many of the players named in this thread didn't have as many tools as Madrigal. I really do not understand the criticism. 16 minutes ago, Dam8610 said: 5'8" with consistent 15-20 HR pop and .800 OPS. I like the comp, but the only problem I have is that @greg775, @ptatc, @Lillian and others keep assuring me that such a result for Madrigal is impossible due to his height. I can't speak for those Sox fans but maybe the problem is picking a short guy so high in the draft? I dunno. I'm one of those that have gotten sick of the station to station baseball players and am elated with the Sox picking Madrigal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lillian Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 45 minutes ago, Dam8610 said: 5'8" with consistent 15-20 HR pop and .800 OPS. I like the comp, but the only problem I have is that @greg775, @ptatc, @Lillian and others keep assuring me that such a result for Madrigal is impossible due to his height. Apparently, you have not read all of my posts, in this thread. If so, you have misunderstood me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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