SoxAce Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 2 minutes ago, Jose Abreu said: Jim Boylen is awful. Bulls started the game down 17-0, he pulls all 5 starters 5 minutes into it. That's fine on the surface, but everything was dropping for the Celtics and the Bulls were getting good looks that just weren't falling. Eh... I wouldn't go that far. Boston was literally on every penetration and shot. In fact, Lauri for example had every shot of his contested badly during that time. That team can D it up unlike many in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 1 minute ago, SoxAce said: Eh... I wouldn't go that far. Boston was literally on every penetration and shot. In fact, Lauri for example had every shot of his contested badly during that time. That team can D it up unlike many in the league. Perhaps. I can at least see the merit for it. But the second time? Not at all. It was 2 minutes. They looked fine, and the bench guys looked way worse. It seems like his priority is to embarrass the starters and keep them from developing. I'm not a fan of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 Just now, Jose Abreu said: But the second time? Not at all. It was 2 minutes. They looked fine, and the bench guys looked way worse. It seems like his priority is to embarrass the starters and keep them from developing. I'm not a fan of that. Agreed there. But I don't think it would've made much of a difference anyway with the way Boston was playing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 (edited) 2 minutes ago, SoxAce said: Agreed there. But I don't think it would've made much of a difference anyway with the way Boston was playing. Yeah, that game is a loss either way. My concern is going forward is he seems to think it's ok to bench an entire group of 5 players based on 2 minutes of play, and those 2 minutes weren't even noticeably bad Edited December 9, 2018 by Jose Abreu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Jose Abreu said: Yeah, that game is a loss either way. My concern is going forward is he seems to think it's ok to bench an entire group of 5 players based on 2 minutes of play, and those 2 minutes weren't even noticeably bad Can not disagree with you at all. I was also scratching my head with that decision in the 3rd. That's how you lose a locker room... and quick. Edited December 9, 2018 by SoxAce Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 what exactly is a 5-3 run? A team making its first 2 shots while you make 1? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 1 hour ago, Jose Abreu said: Jim Boylen is awful. Bulls started the game down 17-0, he pulls all 5 starters 5 minutes into it. That's fine on the surface, but everything was dropping for the Celtics and the Bulls were getting good looks that just weren't falling. Then in the second half, the Bulls are losing the quarter by a score of 5-3, everything seems normal, and Boylen pulls everybody again, this time after about 2 minutes. Great way to lose a locker room before you've even won it over. They never saw the floor again, the starters played 7 minutes + whatever they got in the 2nd quarter. The bench was much worse. I don’t even know what game you were watching if you thought the starters got good looks. That was one of the worst offensive stretches of basketball I’ve ever seen. God awful ball movement, god awful shots. It looked like a high school team vs an NBA team. Literally I’ve never seen a team look so shut down on offense than the start of that game. Awful performance. Boylen might have taken things too far, but he obviously thinks this is a soft team that needs to toughen up and he’s making a calculated bet that the message he sends will motivate and not cause the players to quickly tune him out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 1 hour ago, SoxAce said: Can not disagree with you at all. I was also scratching my head with that decision in the 3rd. That's how you lose a locker room... and quick. Yes the second time he did it was not a good look. The first time was completely deserved. That said the starters were pathetic. Crazy cause the whole team played really well against the Thunder. Like really well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 Yeah...this might be a hot take but after seeing some clips of his post game press conference...he might have just lost the lockeroom and his job. Basically Said the benching saved those guys from further embarrassment. And then went on from there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 9, 2018 Author Share Posted December 9, 2018 Well, if you are going to lose a team, they picked a great year for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SoxAce Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 1 hour ago, Tony said: Yup. As they should be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 Gar Forman is a fucking joke and he's the main guy whose gotta go (but Michael Reinsdorf obviously won't do it) https://chicago.suntimes.com/sports/sources-bulls-gm-gar-forman-was-the-main-force-behind-fred-hoibergs-firing/amp/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 Bulls had a lack of spirit and energy last night. I just wonder what would have to happen for GarPax ever to be held accountable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 8 hours ago, SoxAce said: Gar Forman is a fucking joke and he's the main guy whose gotta go (but Michael Reinsdorf obviously won't do it) https://chicago.suntimes.com/sports/sources-bulls-gm-gar-forman-was-the-main-force-behind-fred-hoibergs-firing/amp/ Hey man, it's clearly always the other guys fault that Gar keeps getting into fights with them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 9, 2018 Author Share Posted December 9, 2018 What a dumpster fire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SleepyWhiteSox Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 This org is a fuckin joke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 (edited) Wow. Just light the fire GarPax. You two already poured the gasoline. What a fucking dumpster fire. Edited December 9, 2018 by SoxAce Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 9, 2018 Author Share Posted December 9, 2018 So it sounds like the kids of the rebuild who are rebelling. That's awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 I'm glad they had the stones to make a scene Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iWiN4PreP Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 Don't know enough about the Bulls situation this year to make a comment on that... ... but just ROFLing that some of us thought the Bulls were playoff bound this year. Lolol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 https://theathletic.com/704226/2018/12/09/jim-boylen-bulls-players-meeting/ must read article. Will sample tomorrow. Brutal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 So Markkanen and Lopez (had a feeling he was one of them) were the two guys who stopped the players from rebelling against the coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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