Soxbadger Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 5 minutes ago, bmags said: They have a 19 year old trying to cover everyones mistakes and he's really not doing that bad of a job. He definitely needs some more muscle though. Hutch really did look fine, especially on doncic, it would be very helpful if he could be a rotation player. Yeah Im hoping that he bulks up as he ages, but part of me thinks hes got a Chris Bosh frame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 26 minutes ago, Soxbadger said: Yeah the roster construction isnt that great right now. The other problem is that the defense is just horrible. Several times yesterday guys just ran to double for no reason, which then led to open shots. Its crazy but it seems like WCJ is basically the defensive anchor. Its a lot to pin on a 19 year old, but the Bulls need to start trusting him 1 on 1 on defense because the rest of the team just doesnt have the capability to switch well. The good news is that Lavine is playing better than anyone could have imagined. A starting line up of WJC/Lauri/Lavine/Dunn actually looks like a place to start. They need a SF badly, whether its by tank or FA. Most importantly, Hoiberg needs to give WCJ 30+ minutes a night. There is no reason not to. Roster construction sucks. They have too many players who need the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 34 minutes ago, bmags said: They have a 19 year old trying to cover everyones mistakes and he's really not doing that bad of a job. He definitely needs some more muscle though. Hutch really did look fine, especially on doncic, it would be very helpful if he could be a rotation player. Technically they wouldn't have a 19 year old trying to cover everyone's mistakes if Lauri was around. Lauri isn't a stellar defender, but he's at least solid and this was also the first game Dunn was back and he's a good defender. The problem is when Lauri is out, whether it is Portis or Parker, you are replacing a solid defender with a porous one and when Dunn was out, you were taking an above average defender and replacing him with Payne (who is a big step down). The bright side is, I still like the talent of Lavine, Dunn, Lauri, and Carter and all of them are actually nice pieces with each other. Portis can't start with that group though and while I think he's a valuable player, he's best served off the bench (if the Bulls are going to win). Parker certainly showed that he can score the ball but a lot of his points were what I'd call old school "iso" and were detrimental to the team movement. He can score though. A nice pick and Durant/Kwahi would be great this offseason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 By the way, I realize it was a small sample size, but Doncic is going to be a star. He looks like the real deal. Just a complete package. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 On another aside, I'm slightly worried that Hoiberg will lose this team quickly (due to all the losing). I don't want "chemistry" and "off the court" issues plaguing a young team that needs good veterans, role models, and stability to enhance their development. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 Oof Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 When did that happen? During the game? The tank is on! I still say the best thing for this season is probably Lavine crushing it, MCJ showing progress, and Lauri/Dunn playing well when they come back, only for their overall record to be impacted by general youth and inconsistent defense, largely from Parker/Portis and others, who are ultimately moved (leveraging the expiring contract of Parker) either to a contender for assets (those guys would help any contenders bench but are probably not building blocks) and/or combined with another piece for a high end player demanding a trade (Parker, Portis plus a draft pick or Dunn or something for a high end player demanding out) and than go all in on adding another free agent in the off-season. Again...just talking out loud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenksismyhero Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 TANK TANK TANK TANK TANK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 1 minute ago, Jenksismyhero said: TANK TANK TANK TANK TANK 1 minute ago, Chisoxfn said: When did that happen? During the game? The tank is on! If the Bulls somehow got a guy like RJ Barrett things would be looking much better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 1 minute ago, Tony said: With the new lottery rules, they just need to be in the bottom 3 of worst records. Seems doable. Technically, them winning late probably isn't that big of a deal cause it is more about a little "luck" than anything else. I presume they won't be bottom 3 bad, but they will likely be bad enough that with the adjusted odds they can "try" to contend and even win some games without drastically shifting their odds. I figure they'll be somewhere between 5-10 (in terms of worst teams) but would have better odds than prior years when it comes to "moving up"...at least I think they would. Also more "downside" risk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 I guess it happened in 2nd quarter but he played through it. Guess our medical staff is top notch. I get that tank is good but cam payne is one of the most offensive basketball players i've ever watched. This sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 5 minutes ago, bmags said: I guess it happened in 2nd quarter but he played through it. Guess our medical staff is top notch. I get that tank is good but cam payne is one of the most offensive basketball players i've ever watched. This sucks. I'm legitimately bummed out, because I looked forward to watching Lavine, Dunn, Lauri, and MCJ developing. I don't have a problem putting blinders on when watching basketball (as long as I don't have to do it for too many years). They are going to have a tough time winning games with their lack of depth at PG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted October 23, 2018 Author Share Posted October 23, 2018 Bulls gonna Bulls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 Of course this is the year that having the worst record only guarantees a Top 5, not 3 pick. Praying for one of Duke's trip or Nassir Little Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 Ugh.. The two guys we don't need injured (Markkanen, Dunn) are injured. I just hope WCJ (and LaVine for that matter) plays 75% of his games at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 Hey Guys! At least Valentine maybe back soon. Gag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 (edited) Trae Young might be better than predicted. Seems to be holding his own. We’ll see when he faces better teams that the Cavs. If he can shoot at least 37.5% from 3, he’ll be off to a good start. Can he not wear down the second half of the season? He was constantly double and triple teamed at OU after the sensational start. Doncic and Joe Ingles have been fun watches in the early going. Edited October 23, 2018 by caulfield12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 32 minutes ago, Brian said: Hey Guys! At least Valentine maybe back soon. Gag They should play valentine at the point. He'd get more playing time and there are no better options. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 I think what I would do is effectively run all ball handling through Lavine and try to find a better defender (shaq harrison?) at the 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 Adam Amin was refreshing last night replacing Funk. Liked funk on radio loads more than I do on tv. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 7 hours ago, Chisoxfn said: On another aside, I'm slightly worried that Hoiberg will lose this team quickly (due to all the losing). I don't want "chemistry" and "off the court" issues plaguing a young team that needs good veterans, role models, and stability to enhance their development. Last year was downright toxic with all the veterans sandbagging the team. It wasn't obvious to me at the time but it definitely is now. *looks in the general direction of Jimmy Butler* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 43 minutes ago, lostfan said: Last year was downright toxic with all the veterans sandbagging the team. It wasn't obvious to me at the time but it definitely is now. *looks in the general direction of Jimmy Butler* Uh, do you mean 2 years ago or are you aiming this at someone like Mirotic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 17 minutes ago, Balta1701 said: Uh, do you mean 2 years ago or are you aiming this at someone like Mirotic? Yes. 2018 went by for me really fast, lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 1 hour ago, lostfan said: Yes. 2018 went by for me really fast, lol I'm trying not to remember the last few basketball seasons either. 2016-2017 was Butler trade, 2017-2018 was Portis breaking Mirotic's face. It all blends together when the Warriors rigged it all anyway. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted October 24, 2018 Author Share Posted October 24, 2018 This was a great read. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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