Chisoxfn Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 2 hours ago, thxfrthmmrs said: I wouldn't spend too much time worrying about Parker's role on the Bulls. If he doesn't pan out at SF, he's as good as gone next season, no reason to pay $20 Mil for a backup PF with defensive issues. As for how the season is playing out, I love what I seen from WCJ so far, he may not end up being elite in any one aspect but could be a very well rounded C for years to come. Him pairing up with Lauri will be interesting to watch. Lavine has been good at shot making, but he really needs to be a better ball handler and distributor if he's going to be a #1 option (which I dont think he should be) Hutch/Arci has been great energy players off the bench, hope they could continue to grow into better role players or even starters, esp for Hutch. And now that Felicio is getting his burn again, maybe he plays his contract into tradeable? I would really hope so... Glad you mentioned Felicio. He is in much better shape this year and I do hope this burn helps make him a bit more tradeable. I think its going to take prolonged run of decent play though, before you can move him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 Not really worried about Felicio's contract. Next year Lopez is gone, so paying Felicio 9mil isnt going to really hurt anyone. Right now the focus needs to be on who to try and target in FA. Durant or Leonard would be the dreams, but I think the Bulls should target Thompson after those 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 *whispers* hey guys I think if we end up getting the number one pick this year we may end up pretty good* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 cost i can't say, but bill simmons is saying rozier wants out of boston and boy would it be great to bump cam payne out of my life. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 Crap it took me only a few hours to forget that I was on team tank after watching some of Duke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerksticks Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 1 hour ago, bmags said: Crap it took me only a few hours to forget that I was on team tank after watching some of Duke. What’s it like watching those 2? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 1 minute ago, Jerksticks said: What’s it like watching those 2? You know those early bball games can always be a little misleading, defenses get a lot better in conference play and all that. But this isn't the typical "100% turnover" freshman roster of kentucky, and everything was just so easy. They look like they could be an all time college team, but obviously we'll see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joejoedairy Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 On 11/6/2018 at 11:55 AM, Soxbadger said: Not really worried about Felicio's contract. Next year Lopez is gone, so paying Felicio 9mil isnt going to really hurt anyone. Right now the focus needs to be on who to try and target in FA. Durant or Leonard would be the dreams, but I think the Bulls should target Thompson after those 2. I would be surprised if Klay ever played an NBA game for a team other than the warriors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 1 minute ago, joejoedairy said: I would be surprised if Klay ever played an NBA game for a team other than the warriors. Not saying its likely, but I think you pitch Klay on the idea of being the "guy" in a major market and getting a chance to show how talented he is. It may not work, but worth a shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 59 minutes ago, Soxbadger said: Not saying its likely, but I think you pitch Klay on the idea of being the "guy" in a major market and getting a chance to show how talented he is. It may not work, but worth a shot. Feels like the last player that cared about this was Melo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 3 minutes ago, bmags said: Feels like the last player that cared about this was Melo. Sounds like it may a factor for Leonard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 Derrick Rose is still good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thxfrthmmrs Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 MVP Rose Per 40: 26.8/4.4/8.2, 55% TS 2018 Rose Per 40: 25.9/4.8/6.5 55.6% TS Looks like he set the clock back by 7 years during daylight saving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 Enjoyed watching Carter battle with AD last night. Hopefully Wendell learned a thing or two and asked AD to come to Chicago. I like the subs on the broadcast for Funk but whomever that was with King last night was not very good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 Since every loss is important Im happy that the Bulls are letting Holiday, Payne and Blakeney take as many or more shots than Carter. But at some point Id really like to see Carter averaging 15+ shots a night. At full strength Im not sure what the Bulls are going to do. I know Parker is a whipping boy here, but he has been pretty solid and actually runs a pretty interesting fast break. For most of the night he had his way with Randle. The problem is unless he can play SF, he wont be worth $20mil a year to the Bulls as a back up. There is no way you can take minutes away from Carter and Lauri, so how Portis is going to fit in as well is going to be a challenge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 You really can't put blakeney on the floor if you want other guys to get shots. He knows it's his only route to staying in league. I'm not even sure that Parker is better than Blakeney to be honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thxfrthmmrs Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 2 hours ago, Soxbadger said: Since every loss is important Im happy that the Bulls are letting Holiday, Payne and Blakeney take as many or more shots than Carter. But at some point Id really like to see Carter averaging 15+ shots a night. We're like 10 games into the season. I wouldn't worry about this until next year. He's not known to be an offensive minded, but with time he should be able to expand his game. Right now it's important for him to learn to take good shots within the flow of the offense instead of trying to force bad shots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 2 hours ago, Soxbadger said: Since every loss is important Im happy that the Bulls are letting Holiday, Payne and Blakeney take as many or more shots than Carter. But at some point Id really like to see Carter averaging 15+ shots a night. At full strength Im not sure what the Bulls are going to do. I know Parker is a whipping boy here, but he has been pretty solid and actually runs a pretty interesting fast break. For most of the night he had his way with Randle. The problem is unless he can play SF, he wont be worth $20mil a year to the Bulls as a back up. There is no way you can take minutes away from Carter and Lauri, so how Portis is going to fit in as well is going to be a challenge. I came to a quick knee-jerk reaction on Parker, but I can see why the Bulls thought he was worth taking a chance on. He has fantastic scoring ability and you can see he is also a solid playmaker. That said, his fit is tough since he really can't play the 3 and I don't think Lauri can either. Carter JR. has really been coming on strong lately though. Very nice to see and Hutchinson has the length and athleticism to project into a high-end defender (he could also very much suck...but his body type reminds me a lot of Paul George). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 57 minutes ago, thxfrthmmrs said: We're like 10 games into the season. I wouldn't worry about this until next year. He's not known to be an offensive minded, but with time he should be able to expand his game. Right now it's important for him to learn to take good shots within the flow of the offense instead of trying to force bad shots. Im not really worried, just discussing how I think the best way for Carter to progress is. The reason I want Carter taking shots is because he isnt as offensive minded as some rookies and I worry that when Lauri and others come back he may become even more passive. Now is the time for him to get his shots 42 minutes ago, Chisoxfn said: I came to a quick knee-jerk reaction on Parker, but I can see why the Bulls thought he was worth taking a chance on. He has fantastic scoring ability and you can see he is also a solid playmaker. That said, his fit is tough since he really can't play the 3 and I don't think Lauri can either. Carter JR. has really been coming on strong lately though. Very nice to see and Hutchinson has the length and athleticism to project into a high-end defender (he could also very much suck...but his body type reminds me a lot of Paul George). Parkers +/- and other advanced states are bad, but my eyes seem to tell me otherwise. The problem is that he doesnt seem to be worth $20mil a year. Julius Randle is making around $9mil, and it seemed like Parker was better than him last night. I just dont know if Parker would settle for a $10mil a year deal. From the Bulls perspective I just dont see how you can keep Portis, Parker and Feliciano next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 (edited) 3 hours ago, Soxbadger said: Parkers +/- and other advanced states are bad, but my eyes seem to tell me otherwise. Ok.. lets look at the regular stats then. He is shooting a career worst 45.6% from the field, 28.2% from 3 and 69.7% from the FT line while committing a career worst 2.6 turnovers per game and this isn't even counting his terrible defensive stats.... Yea he's been terrible and if your eyes see otherwise, you better get them checked. But hey... if you are in on the tank, then he's a terrific asset. I'm not sure which play was worse with him that I saw last night.. his TERRIBLE alley-oop pass to WCJ then tried blaming it on him or his nonchalant hustle back on defense (that he does almost every possession or fast break) that Fred chewed him out on after he called timeout and he thought he did nothing wrong. Edited November 8, 2018 by SoxAce Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 This has been the consistent results of my eye test on Jabari. Can’t stand a player that plays like this all. The. Time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 18 minutes ago, SoxAce said: Ok.. lets look at the regular stats then. He is shooting a career worst 45.6% from the field, 28.2% from 3 and 69.7% from the FT line while committing a career worst 2.6 turnovers per game and this isn't even counting his terrible defensive stats.... Yea he's been terrible and if your eyes see otherwise, you better get them checked. But hey... if you are in on the tank, then he's a terrific asset. I'm not sure which play was worse with him that I saw last night.. his TERRIBLE alley-oop pass to WCJ then tried blaming it on him or his nonchalant hustle back on defense (that he does almost every possession or fast break) that Fred chewed him out on after he called timeout and he thought he did nothing wrong. He was better than Julius Randle all night. Turnovers are insane for the Bulls right now. Lavine is leading the league. They are overall horrendous at that aspect. Hoiberg's rotations are brutal, but there are times he is the best player for the Bulls on the court. Yeah he is committing turnovers, and yes it was a bad pass, but the idea behind the pass was sound. As I said, the stats dont back it up. But Ive actually been watching every game this year, and Im willing to stand by my opinions. Its really hard to rate the Bulls defense, because 99% of the time Im not even sure what they are doing. They basically just run around and leave guys wide open. They double team for no reason. They help when it makes no sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 Jimmy Butler traded to the 76ers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justBLAZE Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 For peanuts too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 21 minutes ago, SoxAce said: Jimmy Butler traded to the 76ers. This kills the process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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