caulfield12 Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 You can get away with essentially two pitches if you vary speed, arm angles, location, etc. Jose Contreras is the ultimate example, the run he was on in 2005/early 2006 with the forkball/split and 95-98 MPH fb. Covey as well. His fastball/slider combination is good enough 80-85% of the time (at least for right now), but he still has the change and curveball to throw that other 15%. Of course, the main point with your secondary stuff is being able to get it over for strikes (or fool the hitter so much he expands outside of the zone)...and also that "pitching backwards" idea of getting ahead in counts early with offspeed stuff like Giolito did much more effectively last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 (edited) Tack on another wild pitch, and another walk. Yeesh. Just pull him at this point. Edited June 15, 2018 by DirtySox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigHurt3515 Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 Kopech looks like a disaster. 6 walks and 2 HBP in 3 innings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 Kopech and Moncada going south at the same time... ERA nearly at 5. Escapes based loaded, 2 out situation, still gave up 3 runs. 4.91 ERA. 77 pitches to get through 3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 3 minutes ago, DirtySox said: Tack on another wild pitch, and another walk. Yeesh. Just pull him at this point. It would be abuse if he goes out for the 4th. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 (edited) Cease might be passing Kopech...even though he's not Top 131 on the FG list. We seem to need multiple sport psychologists for GIolito, Kopech/Fulmer and Anderson/Moncada. Edited June 15, 2018 by caulfield12 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 Wake up, Grudz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 8 walks in 3+. (But just two hits?) 5 ER, now at a not so sterling 5.20 ERA. 86 pitches to get just 9 outs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reiks12 Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 they better not even think about bringing kopech up this year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 (edited) Adolfo OPS under 800 but Basabe really picking it up again. Looks like they're (still) bound and determined to protect Rutherford by giving him the best possible match-ups... Edited June 15, 2018 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxfan49 Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 32 minutes ago, soxfan49 said: Kopech up to 5 BB’s in 2 IP tonight. Laz Rivera is 2-4 so far on the way. Speaking of Kannapolis, did Luis Gonzalez get hurt? haven’t seen him in a box score in some time it seems Gonzalez last played on 6/10 but I can’t anything about an injury Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 2 minutes ago, reiks12 said: they better not even think about bringing kopech up this year Unless you really want to plant seeds of doubt in the fanbase...he would absolutely be destroyed. Maybe that's what he needs, a kick in the a--. But we seem to have so many fragile psyches, how would he be able to handle that kind of adversity? Would he simply fall apart? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 Time to close the ole Charlotte box score. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 (edited) Clearly Kopech needs to get back with Brielle. He's closer to being a AA pitcher than major leaguer. As for Grudz, he's a horrible manager. Been saying that since last year when he would sit on his ass as his players were getting screwed over constantly by strike zones, etc. Edited June 15, 2018 by fathom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 83 thru 7 for Cease. Love how he's been limiting his pitches per inning of late Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxfan49 Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 4 minutes ago, fathom said: 83 thru 7 for Cease. Love how he's been limiting his pitches per inning of late Getting people out without having to strike them out. He only has 2 K’s tonight. Dunning hasn’t given up a hit through 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 41 minutes ago, caulfield12 said: Cease might be passing Kopech...even though he's not Top 131 on the FG list. We seem to need multiple sport psychologists for GIolito, Kopech/Fulmer and Anderson/Moncada. Talk about a hot take... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
footlongcomiskeydog Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 Luis Robert not really pressing for a promotion to Winston Salem. Kid should be feasting on low a ball pitching. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 7 hours ago, Hot FiRe said: Jose Rodriguez 3-4 with a 2B. This guy is looking legit... Somebody mentioned him yesterday in the minor league thread. Only 17 years old and plays SS.Hitting .413 in 11 games so far. I mentioned him the first game because its rare a 17 year old bats 3rd even in the DSL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 Eloy in Charlotte a week from tonight, I would think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron883 Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 6 minutes ago, SoxAce said: I mentioned him the first game because its rare a 17 year old bats 3rd even in the DSL. Good catch man. I can't help but think of all the success the cubs have had with international prospects. Obviously this guy isn't a big signing like some of their guys, but he's balling. Those international signings are a crapshoot. Maybe we got the lucky side of the crapshoot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 Cease went 8 innings. Threw 99 mph on pitch 101. Was getting a lot of swings and misses on his change up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxfan49 Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 Great day for Cease. So far, a great day for Eloy and Dunning Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 57 minutes ago, fathom said: Clearly Kopech needs to get back with Brielle. He's closer to being a AA pitcher than major leaguer. As for Grudz, he's a horrible manager. Been saying that since last year when he would sit on his ass as his players were getting screwed over constantly by strike zones, etc. Should be interesting to read the comments after the game. Should be a good learning experience unless an injury is involved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigHurt3515 Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 All hail Dane Dunning. 7 IP, 3 H, 0 ER, 9K.... Oh and most importantly 0 BBs 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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