sin city sox fan Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 I have no delusions that we are one of the best, but I think the worst is inaccurate. Bad defense doesn't help out our starters and I would put them at least 5-10 spots higher in a ranking. Quote 30. Chicago White Sox: It's more disappointing that their young pitchers have shown so little progress than if they were just using bad veterans. The rotation has baseball's highest walk rate and lowest strikeout rate. Lucas Giolito has been a disaster, and Reynaldo Lopez's ERA masks mediocre peripherals. With luck, Carlos Rodon will put together an encouraging second half. Michael Kopech has almost 12 K/9 down in Triple-A, but he has walked more than six per and has a 5.20 ERA. http://www.espn.com/mlb/insider/story/_/id/23846667/ranking-all-30-mlb-rotations-elite Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 I am moreso surprised the White Sox even made the list, as ESPN generally forgets they even exist. 3 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerksticks Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 12 minutes ago, ChiSox59 said: I am moreso surprised the White Sox even made the list, as ESPN generally forgets they even exist. POTY candidate man! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joejoedairy Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 Tough to argue when they have the lowest K rate and highest walk rate in the league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 Glad to see the Sox get what they deserve in terms of embarrassing publicity. This rotation is against the spirit of baseball. It's designed to get us a top draft pick. Wish the commish would fine the Sox until it hurts for tanking. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 26 minutes ago, joejoedairy said: Tough to argue when they have the lowest K rate and highest walk rate in the league. No doubt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Harold Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 I'm a tad surprised that the Sox have out-sucked the Reds in this category, but yeah it's been less than ideal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxfan49 Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 File this under the "no f***ing shit" category 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 (edited) The only thing I am surprised at is, as bad as they have been, teams are actually worse than the White Sox. The Royals are a total train wreck and aren't exactly stocked with future reinforcements. And the Orioles tried to win and they are horrid, and will only get worse, for many, many years. I figured a few teams would be worse coming into this season, but I also figured the Sox were a mid 70s win team. Edited June 20, 2018 by Dick Allen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 I'd say KC and Miami definitely have worse rotations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lip Man 1 Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 Hard to argue with the points that were brought up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunt Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 OH SO I GUESS DYLAN COVEY DOESNT EVEN EXIST THEN HUH??????????????????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 It is what it is. I think most of us already knew this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insp Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 4 hours ago, sin city sox fan said: I have no delusions that we are one of the best, but I think the worst is inaccurate. Bad defense doesn't help out our starters and I would put them at least 5-10 spots higher in a ranking. http://www.espn.com/mlb/insider/story/_/id/23846667/ranking-all-30-mlb-rotations-elite And yet somebody here was asking if we had too much quality starting pitching. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 They were projected dead last in fWAR by ZIPS. This is old news. But, in case you want a fresh whiff of the shit, you can tune in a nightly basis. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insp Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 1 hour ago, Dunt said: OH SO I GUESS DYLAN COVEY DOESNT EVEN EXIST THEN HUH??????????????????? He's the team's only quality starter and he's showing signs of slowing down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 When Jamie Shields is one of your best, if not your best, starters... you’re bad. Bad however, is not a bad thing this year. Suck it up boys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FT35 Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 Rodon, Lopez, Covey, maybe Kopech in the 2nd half. Looking at possible minor deals for Miguel Gonzalez and Shields I’m sure. Giolito might need some AAA time to get right again—although I’m not sure he will ever live up to the hype as a TOR starter. Sometimes guys like that ultimately land and find success in the bullpen though so I’m not writing him off. I think he has the stuff to be successful but I’m not sure it will be as a starter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 21 hours ago, soxfan49 said: File this under the "no f***ing shit" category Buster provided another one in that category this morning. I’m sure you can easily find my reply Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwolf68 Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 2 hours ago, FT35 said: Rodon, Lopez, Covey, maybe Kopech in the 2nd half. Looking at possible minor deals for Miguel Gonzalez and Shields I’m sure. Giolito might need some AAA time to get right again—although I’m not sure he will ever live up to the hype as a TOR starter. Sometimes guys like that ultimately land and find success in the bullpen though so I’m not writing him off. I think he has the stuff to be successful but I’m not sure it will be as a starter. If Hahn gets ANYTHING and I mean ANYTHING for Miguel Gonzalez they should erect a statue of him in front of the stadium. Who in the hell would want that guy? Shields will get you a decent (maybe around 12-15 in system) prospect at best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcq Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 Don't need to see Gonzo or Gio anymore. Let's move on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FT35 Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 1 hour ago, kwolf68 said: If Hahn gets ANYTHING and I mean ANYTHING for Miguel Gonzalez they should erect a statue of him in front of the stadium. Who in the hell would want that guy? Shields will get you a decent (maybe around 12-15 in system) prospect at best. Welp...he did it last year with MiGo amongst several similar posts as yours! Maybe he can pull it off again? Obviously he won’t get much for either of them if he’s able to get something done. I’m thinking if he IS able to move them, it would not be to a contender, but to a team who DOES move a SP to a contender. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 19 hours ago, kwolf68 said: If Hahn gets ANYTHING and I mean ANYTHING for Miguel Gonzalez they should erect a statue of him in front of the stadium. Who in the hell would want that guy? Shields will get you a decent (maybe around 12-15 in system) prospect at best. The injuries to Miguel probably killed that idea. I also think you might be a bit generous in what we can get for Shields. I thinking something like a flawed one big tool player guy who slots at the end of a top 30 list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.