whitesoxfan99 Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 24 minutes ago, Sleepy Harold said: In what would be the least surprising news ever... What a garbage organization. I wouldn't even ever bother engaging them in trade talks unless they were giving players away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 Yeah I would never want to be in a position where I'm dealing with orioles. The good news is I doubt anyone will for quite a few years once britton/machado are gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 I'm a bit confused here. Is the implication that the Orioles don't know how to properly give physicals? Because I don't get why a Dodgers player having an issue with a physical reflects poorly on the Orioles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Harold Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 2 minutes ago, ChiliIrishHammock24 said: I'm a bit confused here. Is the implication that the Orioles don't know how to properly give physicals? Because I don't get why a Dodgers player having an issue with a physical reflects poorly on the Orioles. I think it's mostly due to the Orioles seemingly always finding something on the medicals side to nix any deal, which has made teams leery of dealing with them because you think you're right at the finish line then something comes up last second. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 12 minutes ago, Sleepy Harold said: I think it's mostly due to the Orioles seemingly always finding something on the medicals side to nix any deal, which has made teams leery of dealing with them because you think you're right at the finish line then something comes up last second. But what would be their motivation to sabotaging their own deals? Trying to get other teams to jump in last second to steal a trade away? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dam8610 Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 Just now, ChiliIrishHammock24 said: But what would be their motivation to sabotaging their own deals? Trying to get other teams to jump in last second to steal a trade away? Why would anyone sign Chris Davis to a 7 year $161 million deal instead of extending Manny Machado? Orioles gonna Orioles. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 Just now, Dam8610 said: Why would anyone sign Chris Davis to a 7 year $161 million deal instead of extending Manny Machado? Orioles gonna Orioles. Sadly the Bulls just matched Zach Lavine so my laugh was a little stifled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Harold Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 3 minutes ago, ChiliIrishHammock24 said: But what would be their motivation to sabotaging their own deals? Trying to get other teams to jump in last second to steal a trade away? Never go full Orioles, once you do there's no turning back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxnfins Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 "Medical Orioles" goes together like peanut butter and jelly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, ChiliIrishHammock24 said: I'm a bit confused here. Is the implication that the Orioles don't know how to properly give physicals? Because I don't get why a Dodgers player having an issue with a physical reflects poorly on the Orioles. Its not that they don't do them properly. It's that this group wants the physicals to be perfectly clear. Most organizations understand that professional athletes are going to have some wear and tear. They accept a little and work at "prehab" and understand what is a red flag or yellow flag for a deal. Baltimore has always been extremely picky and doesn't accept this. It's their right but it also makes them difficult to deal with. Edited July 18, 2018 by ptatc 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 7 minutes ago, ptatc said: Its. It that they don't do them properly. It's that this group wants the physicals to be perfectly clear. Most organizations understand that professional athletes are going to have some wear and tear. They accept a little and work at "prehab" and understand what is a red flag or yellow flag for a deal. Baltimore has always been extremely picky and doesn't accept this. It's their right but it also makes them difficult to deal with. So the issue as that they are overly cautious and likely unrealistic. Got it, thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 4 minutes ago, ChiliIrishHammock24 said: So the issue as that they are overly cautious and likely unrealistic. Got it, thanks. Exactly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 If I was the Dodgers and the rest of the league I'd let them lose Machado for only the draft pick. If I were an opposing GM I wouldn't even call them until they get realistic about players medicals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Soxnfins Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 Machado to Dodgers is a good thing. If we chose, we can probably pry him away from them in the off-season due to them being at the luxury tax cap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frogsplash31 Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 Deal seems about right. One real prospect and a few lotto ticket types. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dam8610 Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 What's the actual deal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sticky Stuff Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 2 minutes ago, Dam8610 said: What's the actual deal? Dean Kremer, Zach Pop, Rylan Bannon, Breyvic Valera, and Yusniel Diaz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Chicago White Sox Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 16 minutes ago, frogsplash31 said: Deal seems about right. One real prospect and a few lotto ticket types. Seems like they could have gotten more in the offseason IMO, but admittedly I don’t know much about the secondary pieces. Regardless, at least we won’t lose a pick now when we sign him next offseason. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 22 minutes ago, Soxnfins said: Machado to Dodgers is a good thing. If we chose, we can probably pry him away from them in the off-season due to them being at the luxury tax cap. Depends on what the dodgers do with Kershaw. If they part ways with Kershaw they will have plenty of money to re-sign Machado. I honestly don't think the White Sox have a snowballs chance in hell at signing Machado. I think he'll get some good offers from contending teams that will take the Sox out of the mix. I'm hoping the Sox are able to play solid enough baseball in '19 with their young talent to goes balls deep after Arenado over the 2019/20 winter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 This is a nice return for the O's that gives them some depth for their putrid minor league system. Certainly not as much as they could have had but that's on their front office. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 2 minutes ago, BlackSox13 said: Depends on what the dodgers do with Kershaw. If they part ways with Kershaw they will have plenty of money to re-sign Machado. I honestly don't think the White Sox have a snowballs chance in hell at signing Machado. I think he'll get some good offers from contending teams that will take the Sox out of the mix. I'm hoping the Sox are able to play solid enough baseball in '19 with their young talent to goes balls deep after Arenado over the 2019/20 winter. The Dodgers aren't going to be worrying about the luxury tax next offseason as long as they're under it this year. If they stay under the tax level this year, the penalties reset for them - for every dollar they are over the tax line of about $210 million they'll only pay a 15% tax. If they didn't get under this year, they'd pay a 50% multi-year-repeater tax for every dollar over the tax line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCCWS Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 1 minute ago, BlackSox13 said: Depends on what the dodgers do with Kershaw. If they part ways with Kershaw they will have plenty of money to re-sign Machado. I honestly don't think the White Sox have a snowballs chance in hell at signing Machado. I think he'll get some good offers from contending teams that will take the Sox out of the mix. I'm hoping the Sox are able to play solid enough baseball in '19 with their young talent to goes balls deep after Arenado over the 2019/20 winter. Agree. I think Machado will only want to go to an established contender not someone in a rebuild. But there will be studs in 2020 when we should be more competitive for players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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