TaylorStSox Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 1 hour ago, Chisoxfn said: I really don't like this thought process. People have found stats that make them rationalize why certain things are okay / aren't okay. This "absolutism" baseball has evolved into is just not good for the overall excitement of the game (i.e., HR / BB / K). Batting average is a good stat (it is not a worthless stat). Getting more hits is a good thing. Yes, luck and other factors exist (and need to be accounted for), but guys who get more hits are just generally going to be more likely to deliver in critical situations and help you win more "one-run" games. The fundamentals of players, etc has declined. Doesn't mean guys aren't physically gifted...cause are incredibly gifted and pitchers throw ridiculously harder, etc, which adds to the nuances, but the advent of the shift, the ridiculous amount of strikeouts...none of that would have happened in the first 100 years of the game. There goes those dumb players again, not understanding stats. They're too stupid. Valuing hits and batting average? Those idiots. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
black jack Posted July 26, 2018 Share Posted July 26, 2018 21 hours ago, BrianAnderson said: Can you imagine if the MLB moves away from Umpires to computers for calling balls and strikes? I don't think it happens in the next 2-3 years, but I definitely see it happening in the next decade. If that happens the value on a guy like Moncada instantly goes up a TON. Imagine those 35 called 3rd strikes and now how that changes his batting average and OBP, etc. This kid is going to be a stud. Can someone please do that math? I'd love to see them! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted July 26, 2018 Share Posted July 26, 2018 15 hours ago, Chisoxfn said: I really hope he makes it cause he's the kind of player that I like to see. MLB needs more guys (in his mold). I agree. As does baseball management when they talk about action in the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
he gone. Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 On 7/26/2018 at 7:26 AM, black jack said: Can someone please do that math? I'd love to see them! Hard to do the math on it because you don't really know the counts in those situations .. for instance was it 1-2 count or 3-2 count. Obviously the 3-2 count would be a walk. And you don't know what he'd do right after that pitch. Let's say it was 1-2 and he got rung up -- maybe on 2-2 he gets rung up watching one down the middle. But for fun: He's struck out 33.4% of appearances right now - so every 1/3. If he were to not strikeout in any of those 34 bad calls he'd be at 25% strikeout rate. Now let's cut it in half. Let's say he got a hit or walk on half of those appearances (high number) his OBP would be .354. That's being very generous to him, but if he had a 25% strikeout ratio with a .354OBP and figure out of those 17 extra times he gets on base a few are doubles or a homer with some RBI's attached? All of a sudden his stat line is looking a lot stronger. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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