Jack Parkman Posted July 29, 2018 Share Posted July 29, 2018 Just now, fathom said: another garbage pitch on an 0-2 count, as well as throwing 91-92 mph in the 5th inning I disagree that was on the inside corner and a strike. They throw a changeup there he probably swings and misses, and Gio has a chance to get out of that inning with no runs allowed. That was in no way a meatball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted July 29, 2018 Share Posted July 29, 2018 Re: Giolito. Can't be throwing high fastballs to guys at 90-91 MPH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 29, 2018 Share Posted July 29, 2018 1 minute ago, Jack Parkman said: I disagree that was on the inside corner and a strike. They throw a changeup there he probably swings and misses, and Gio has a chance to get out of that inning with no runs allowed. That was in no way a meatball. It's a 92 mph fastball that had a piece of the plate. Given Giolito's spin rate, that's a bad pitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real Posted July 29, 2018 Share Posted July 29, 2018 I guess it's better to be cheap and bad than expensive and bad What free agents will we sign this offseason? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted July 29, 2018 Share Posted July 29, 2018 (edited) 27 minutes ago, DirtySox said: Re: Giolito. Can't be throwing high fastballs to guys at 90-91 MPH. I question whether or not Buehrle could even be an effective MLB pitcher anymore. These guys are so used to high velocity that anything 90-92 looks like a meatball to these hitters. Edited July 29, 2018 by Jack Parkman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 29, 2018 Share Posted July 29, 2018 1 minute ago, DirtySox said: Re: Giolito. Can't be throwing high fastballs to guys at 90-91 MPH. I'm not sure what him and Lopez have to do to improve their spin rate, but I hope they work on tinkering things the rest of the way. Just continuing to go forward with what they've done this year (especially Lopez) and ignoring metrics is wasting valuable development time. With that said, Cooper doesn't strike me as someone that cares about spin rate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted July 29, 2018 Share Posted July 29, 2018 1 minute ago, fathom said: It's a 92 mph fastball that had a piece of the plate. Given Giolito's spin rate, that's a bad pitch. You win. I can't argue that. Just proves my point about throwing the changeup with 2 strikes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 29, 2018 Share Posted July 29, 2018 1 minute ago, Real said: I guess it's better to be cheap and bad than expensive and bad What free agents will we sign this offseason? Eduardo Escobar, Adam Jones, James Shields Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted July 29, 2018 Share Posted July 29, 2018 1 minute ago, Real said: I guess it's better to be cheap and bad than expensive and bad What free agents will we sign this offseason? Hopefully more guys that can be flipped. I can't see this team being competitive next year. Window isn't even close to open yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 29, 2018 Share Posted July 29, 2018 easily the best thing this coaching staff has done during their tenure is the daylight play at 2nd base Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted July 29, 2018 Share Posted July 29, 2018 (edited) 6 minutes ago, fathom said: I'm not sure what him and Lopez have to do to improve their spin rate, but I hope they work on tinkering things the rest of the way. Just continuing to go forward with what they've done this year (especially Lopez) and ignoring metrics is wasting valuable development time. With that said, Cooper doesn't strike me as someone that cares about spin rate. As much as I like Coop, I think the game has passed him by. You can't throw low in the zone anymore. He still seems to like that. That is a recipe for giving up tons of HRs now, especially at GRF. Sinkers overall were hit the hardest in MLB over the last three seasons, and he still likes them. Cooper has to adjust or go bye bye. The launch angle revolution has also made it nearly impossible to miss bats without velocity. Pitchers who used to get by with diminished stuff by keeping the ball down and changing speeds are getting killed. They can still miss bats, but when they throw that 88-92 mph fastball they get destroyed on that pitch. Hitters have to wait for a fastball and it is basically BP for them. Edited July 29, 2018 by Jack Parkman 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted July 29, 2018 Share Posted July 29, 2018 This new Volstad is very refreshing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 29, 2018 Share Posted July 29, 2018 much better swing by Anderson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted July 29, 2018 Share Posted July 29, 2018 I'm beginning to question Moncada. This is from someone who absolutely loved him up until recently. I don't know if he's going to be anything other than average anymore. When even the conductor of the Moncada hype train comes to this conclusion, something is wrong. Maybe his contact issues are way too severe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted July 29, 2018 Share Posted July 29, 2018 Hard for me to understand what has changed recently with Moncada to make you question him, especially with regard to concerns about his ability to make contact: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 29, 2018 Share Posted July 29, 2018 real nice stretch for Delmonico, as it looks like he found some power with his wrist healed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 29, 2018 Share Posted July 29, 2018 great stuff Jake, I've enjoyed the JakeCast revolution. How about hard contact percentage? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Mite Posted July 29, 2018 Share Posted July 29, 2018 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Jack Parkman said: I'm beginning to question Moncada. This is from someone who absolutely loved him up until recently. I don't know if he's going to be anything other than average anymore. When even the conductor of the Moncada hype train comes to this conclusion, something is wrong. Maybe his contact issues are way too severe. He seems to have a really great game once in awhile and we all think he has turned the corner, not sure if he's going to live up to all the hype bestowed on him. One thing is, I'm not wild abut him batting leadoff, bat him 6 or 7. Too early to give up on him, if he's having a hard time a year from now I would say there would be some cause for concern. Edited July 29, 2018 by The Mighty Mite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ttommarello823 Posted July 29, 2018 Share Posted July 29, 2018 (edited) 28 minutes ago, Jack Parkman said: I'm beginning to question Moncada. This is from someone who absolutely loved him up until recently. I don't know if he's going to be anything other than average anymore. When even the conductor of the Moncada hype train comes to this conclusion, something is wrong. Maybe his contact issues are way too severe. Then that makes the Chris Sale trade one of the worst ever! Edited July 29, 2018 by ttommarello823 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 29, 2018 Share Posted July 29, 2018 2 minutes ago, The Mighty Mite said: He seems to have a really great game once in awhile and we all think he has turned the corner, not sure if he's going live up to all the hype bestowed on him. Too early to give up on him, if he's having a hard time a year from now I would say there would some cause for concern. Ozzie had an amazing quote about him earlier in the week where he said something along the lines of loving Yoan for 2 games and then hating him for 3 games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ttommarello823 Posted July 29, 2018 Share Posted July 29, 2018 Some head scratchers about tonight’s game. Why is Leury Garcia, one of the Sox best hitters at least by average, batting 8th? And let’s stop the Palka/Davidson crap. Palka should be in the lineup whenever a righty starts! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 29, 2018 Share Posted July 29, 2018 Just now, ttommarello823 said: Some head scratchers about tonight’s game. Why is Leury Garcia, one of the Sox best hitters at least by average, batting 8th? And let’s stop the Palka/Davidson crap. Palka should be in the lineup whenever a righty starts! Especially with a lefty going tomorrow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshPR Posted July 29, 2018 Share Posted July 29, 2018 Geesus Tim cut down your swing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 29, 2018 Share Posted July 29, 2018 1 minute ago, JoshPR said: Geesus Tim cut down your swing He has no plan at the plate anymore. First few months seem like an anomaly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Mite Posted July 29, 2018 Share Posted July 29, 2018 (edited) 11 minutes ago, ttommarello823 said: Then that makes the Chris Sale trade on of the worst ever! No, whatever happens the worst trade ever was the Cubs trading Lou Brock for Ernie Broglio followed by the A's trading Nellie Fox for Joe Tipton. Edited July 29, 2018 by The Mighty Mite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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