fathom Posted July 29, 2018 Share Posted July 29, 2018 (edited) On 7/29/2018 at 1:41 AM, The Mighty Mite said: No, whatever happens the worst trade ever was the Cubs trading Lou Brock for Ernie Broglio followed by the A's trading Nellie Fox for Joe Tipton. Expand Shields for Tatis Jr. has a chance to be in the conversation if Tatis Jr. has the career some expect, as was Anderson for Bagwell. After reviewing Bagwell's fangraphs page, I think that one wins. Edited July 29, 2018 by fathom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 29, 2018 Share Posted July 29, 2018 Well Jose looks good again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted July 29, 2018 Share Posted July 29, 2018 On 7/29/2018 at 1:28 AM, Jake said: Hard for me to understand what has changed recently with Moncada to make you question him, especially with regard to concerns about his ability to make contact: Expand I thought he'd figure it out and start being able to fight off close pitches and not swing and miss in the strike zone. That hasn't gone away. He seems to have a game or two in a row where he goes 2-4 or 3-5, followed by 5 games of 0 or 1 hit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ttommarello823 Posted July 29, 2018 Share Posted July 29, 2018 As I said before, enough with the Palka/Davidson crap! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted July 29, 2018 Share Posted July 29, 2018 Stop winning! Think of the draft pick! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ttommarello823 Posted July 29, 2018 Share Posted July 29, 2018 Why not pinch hit Narvaez here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshPR Posted July 29, 2018 Share Posted July 29, 2018 Why is smith bunting? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insp Posted July 29, 2018 Share Posted July 29, 2018 Unbelievable. We're in the lead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted July 29, 2018 Share Posted July 29, 2018 (edited) I'm just starting to become frustrated because there are exactly 3 important players (Moncada/Giolito/Lopez) with the big club this year and you can't pencil in any of them in the lineup/rotation for the foreseeable future, and the sample size is approaching statistical significance. At this point they're in "prove it" mode. Edited July 29, 2018 by Jack Parkman 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harkness99 Posted July 29, 2018 Share Posted July 29, 2018 Leury needs to play every day. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 29, 2018 Share Posted July 29, 2018 tons of fun this inning! very good approaches Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted July 29, 2018 Share Posted July 29, 2018 On 7/29/2018 at 2:07 AM, harkness99 said: Leury needs to play every day. Expand Agreed. He should start in CF for a while Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted July 29, 2018 Share Posted July 29, 2018 What an awesome crowd again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insp Posted July 29, 2018 Share Posted July 29, 2018 Moncada ruins the fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 29, 2018 Share Posted July 29, 2018 On 7/29/2018 at 2:04 AM, Jack Parkman said: I'm just starting to become frustrated because there are exactly 3 important players (Moncada/Giolito/Lopez) with the big club this year and you can't pencil in any of them in the lineup/rotation for the foreseeable future, and the sample size is approaching statistical significance. At this point they're in "prove it" mode. Expand Yoan looks like he's about to go into a slump again. Pulling off the ball badly, causing him to foul off hittable pitches. So far, the "first wave" of the rebuild has been disappointing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted July 29, 2018 Share Posted July 29, 2018 (edited) Moncada might set the record for Ks in a season. 141 and it isn't August. Woof. Edited July 29, 2018 by Jack Parkman 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigHurt3515 Posted July 29, 2018 Share Posted July 29, 2018 I tell you what this bullpen has a chance to be pretty damn good next year with all the young guys we have Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 29, 2018 Share Posted July 29, 2018 On 7/29/2018 at 2:20 AM, Tony said: They have all had disappointing seasons. But even if all three had positive 2018’s they would still be in “prove it” mode in 2019. Long way to go to see what these guys really are. Expand With Yoan, if he had a good year, it would have been off and running on his way to becoming a superstar IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 29, 2018 Share Posted July 29, 2018 On 7/29/2018 at 2:11 AM, bmags said: What an awesome crowd again. Expand almost 30k....I wonder if teams had bobbleheads every game, would they end up making significant more money in terms of revenue? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsox Posted July 29, 2018 Share Posted July 29, 2018 On 7/29/2018 at 2:19 AM, Jack Parkman said: Moncada might set the record for Ks in a season. 141 and it isnt August. Woof. Expand Jack, Maybe Sox traded Sale for Kopech and Basabe, and Moncada and Diaz were throw-ins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown Posted July 29, 2018 Share Posted July 29, 2018 On 7/29/2018 at 2:19 AM, Jack Parkman said: Moncada might set the record for Ks in a season. 141 and it isnt August. Woof. Expand Dude is lighting up the K column. Very underwhelming first full season by the "former" number 1 prospect in baseball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted July 29, 2018 Share Posted July 29, 2018 (edited) On 7/29/2018 at 2:47 AM, oldsox said: Jack, Maybe Sox traded Sale for Kopech and Basabe, and Moncada and Diaz were throw-ins. Expand I don't think so. Moncada was a centerpiece. I'm going to start a new thread about the disappointing first wave Edited July 29, 2018 by Jack Parkman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted July 29, 2018 Share Posted July 29, 2018 On 7/29/2018 at 2:11 AM, bmags said: What an awesome crowd again. Expand It was real fun. Players seemed to feed off of it. Leury was loving it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted July 29, 2018 Share Posted July 29, 2018 On 7/29/2018 at 2:31 AM, fathom said: With Yoan, if he had a good year, it would have been off and running on his way to becoming a superstar IMO. Expand I don't see what's so wrong with a 2-3 WAR season from a raw 23 year old 2B. Not directed at you specifically but I don't know why people think he's having such a bad year. He isn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted July 29, 2018 Share Posted July 29, 2018 (edited) On 7/29/2018 at 4:07 AM, Jose Abreu said: I don't see what's so wrong with a 2-3 WAR season from a raw 23 year old 2B. Not directed at you specifically but I don't know why people think he's having such a bad year. He isn't. Expand The fact that he's probably going to set the MLB record for strikeouts in a single season isn't alarming to you? I don't think he's having a horrible season, but there isn't a lot to tell me that he's going to get any better either. He's average to slightly below at this point. He needs to prove that he's better than that. I still have hope that he is, but it is dwindling. He's not there yet, but he's on the precipice of becoming one of those enigma players that oozes talent but can't put it all together to become anything other than slightly below average. Think the hitter version of Javier Vazquez. That is my concern currently. It doesn't change the fact that the 3 main rebuild pieces that are with the big club are only in Chicago because they have 1 option remaining. If Giolito, Lopez and Moncada had an extra option, they would have probably not been called up last year, and would be coming up just now. And if they did come up last year, Giolito and Moncada would have been in Charlotte long ago, and Lopez about late June. Edited July 29, 2018 by Jack Parkman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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