Jake Posted July 29, 2018 Share Posted July 29, 2018 On 7/29/2018 at 7:21 PM, Jake said: I've been thinking that his ABs have been much more competitive against LHP as of late, even when he hasn't gotten the results. Expand Following up on this, I managed to get Baseball Savant to give me month by month splits for Yoan as RHH... April: .268 wOBA May: .110 wOBA June: .150 wOBA July: .334 wOBA (not including today) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTruth05 Posted July 29, 2018 Share Posted July 29, 2018 Leury is an everyday player,especially over scrubs like Engel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 29, 2018 Share Posted July 29, 2018 On 7/29/2018 at 7:34 PM, DirtySox said: Any of you Chris Archer interested teams want a Carlos Rodon instead? Expand He doesn't have close to his best stuff and he's being incredibly efficient. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 29, 2018 Share Posted July 29, 2018 Nice job by Davidson of adjusting his swing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted July 29, 2018 Share Posted July 29, 2018 On 7/29/2018 at 7:40 PM, fathom said: He doesn't have close to his best stuff and he's being incredibly efficient. Expand He's really in an odd spot as far as where he fits into the next contention window. Realistically they aren't competing next year. Possibly 2020? At that point you have 2 years of Carlos control left. Do you try to win with him? Or do you try to flip him at some point for a return that will bolster the younger core? I'm of the opinion you turn him into prospects since I'm not convinced contention is happening anytime soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazox Posted July 29, 2018 Author Share Posted July 29, 2018 Tell 'em Ricky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insp Posted July 29, 2018 Share Posted July 29, 2018 Engel ruins the rally by swinging like a drunken retard on the very first pitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 29, 2018 Share Posted July 29, 2018 On 7/29/2018 at 7:48 PM, DirtySox said: He's really in an odd spot as far as where he fits into the next contention window. Realistically they aren't competing next year. Possibly 2020? At that point you have 2 years of Carlos control left. Do you try to win with him? Or do you try to flip him at some point for a return that will bolster the younger core? I'm of the opinion you turn him into prospects since I'm not convinced contention is happening anytime soon. Expand This is where the uncertainty with the Eaton trade trio really hurts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted July 29, 2018 Share Posted July 29, 2018 On 7/29/2018 at 7:55 PM, fathom said: This is where the uncertainty with the Eaton trade trio really hurts. Expand Yup. And I'm not sure when Carlos would maximize a return either. Off-season if he finishes strong? Trade deadline next year? Do you bank on him becoming injury free? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 29, 2018 Share Posted July 29, 2018 On 7/29/2018 at 7:57 PM, DirtySox said: Yup. And I'm not sure when Carlos would maximize a return either. Off-season if he finishes strong? Trade deadline next year? Do you bank on him becoming injury free? Expand I think 368 days from now most likely, but like you said, it's always a question mark with his health. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted July 29, 2018 Share Posted July 29, 2018 On 7/29/2018 at 7:55 PM, fathom said: This is where the uncertainty with the Eaton trade trio really hurts. Expand I don’t think it changes the equation though. I truly believe we’d be better off cashing in on Rodon’s value (if it’s there) and use those prospects to acquire a TOR when our window is opening. I just hate the idea of finally putting together a competitive team only to lose Rodon after a year or two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted July 29, 2018 Share Posted July 29, 2018 On 7/29/2018 at 7:59 PM, Chicago White Sox said: I don’t think it changes the equation though. I truly believe we’d be better off cashing in on Rodon’s value (if it’s there) and use those prospects to acquire a TOR when our window is opening. I just hate the idea of finally putting together a competitive team only to lose Rodon after a year or two. Expand Yea. I kinda feel you need to follow the Rays model. When a guy is getting close to free agency, you need to cash in that chip to reload. And theoretically you already have a capable replacement ready for him in the system that isn't too far off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted July 29, 2018 Share Posted July 29, 2018 The Rodon situation is much more interesting to me than the Avi one. I don't think any prospect we get matches his upside but I understand the circumstances. I'd personally keep him, but it's tough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted July 29, 2018 Share Posted July 29, 2018 Omar is the one and only true MVP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted July 29, 2018 Share Posted July 29, 2018 Omar is becoming rather interesting with the bat. I wish he was becoming interesting with the glove too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 29, 2018 Share Posted July 29, 2018 On 7/29/2018 at 8:02 PM, SoxAce said: The Rodon situation is much more interesting to me than the Avi one. I don't think any prospect we get matches his upside but I understand the circumstances. I'd personally keep him, but it's tough. Expand Avi is much more likely, IMO, to ever agree to a fair extension if the Sox approached him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 29, 2018 Share Posted July 29, 2018 On 7/29/2018 at 8:04 PM, DirtySox said: Omar is becoming rather interesting with the bat. I wish he was becoming interesting with the glove too. Expand Bat him 2nd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshPR Posted July 29, 2018 Share Posted July 29, 2018 Ugh. Another crappy Anderson at bat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted July 29, 2018 Share Posted July 29, 2018 It's disheartening that Timmy hasn't walked this month. His approach to start the year was so encouraging. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted July 29, 2018 Share Posted July 29, 2018 OT, but Newcomb is 3 outs away from a no-no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted July 29, 2018 Share Posted July 29, 2018 On 7/29/2018 at 8:00 PM, DirtySox said: Yea. I kinda feel you need to follow the Rays model. When a guy is getting close to free agency, you need to cash in that chip to reload. And theoretically you already have a capable replacement ready for him in the system that isn't too far off. Expand Exactly. If we can get a quality return for Rodon between now and this coming offseason (again a big if), that opens up a spot for us to sign a veteran starter to fill a spot. The rotation would then be veteran, Kopech, Lopez, Giolito, & Stephens or Covey. I’d give Lopez & Giolito half a season to show what they got and have Cease & Dunning waiting in the wings to fill in as needed. After the 2019 season we can then use the prospect depth we created from a Rodon to add the rotation if necessary. I really feel like that’s the best path forward rotation wise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazox Posted July 29, 2018 Author Share Posted July 29, 2018 Ouch , felt that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted July 29, 2018 Share Posted July 29, 2018 On 7/29/2018 at 8:08 PM, DirtySox said: It's disheartening that Timmy hasn't walked this month. His approach to start the year was so encouraging. Expand Makes me question what Steverson is actually doing with these guys. Timmy was actually being selective for a while and has mostly given that up over the last month or so. Like show him some tape/stats and say “hey look how selective you were being here and how it paid off”. It’s just so weird to see a guy take a massive leap forward in their biggest area and then completely abandon the change upon success. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigHurt3515 Posted July 29, 2018 Share Posted July 29, 2018 Rick is a softie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted July 29, 2018 Share Posted July 29, 2018 Carlos amped. Hitting 97. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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