fathom Posted August 1, 2018 Share Posted August 1, 2018 Just now, SoxAce said: Sorry KC but you can't out tank us. Seriously, how many hangers did KC get away with in the 8th/9th Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elrockinMT Posted August 1, 2018 Share Posted August 1, 2018 Very poor offensive display. Situational hitting non existent. I question some of those decisions by Renteria tonight too 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted August 1, 2018 Share Posted August 1, 2018 With all due respect to my tanker friends, losing tonight's game was ridiculous. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted August 1, 2018 Share Posted August 1, 2018 Go tank go! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lip Man 1 Posted August 1, 2018 Share Posted August 1, 2018 According to the Sox web site Anderson was pulled from the game for not hustling on an at-bat after he hit a ball. I laud Rick for not putting up with that bull**** but it makes you wonder...this is the third or fourth time this year he's had to do that. I mean the players know what is going to happen if they don't hustle, yet it keeps happening. Not very smart on their part. Unless frustration at all the losing just sets in and they say "screw it" from time to time. Either way that's not a good development no matter how you look at it. Scary stat of the night, Engle's batting average is now the same as Moncada's .225 YIKES! And we know how bad Engle is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted August 1, 2018 Share Posted August 1, 2018 4 minutes ago, Lip Man 1 said: According to the Sox web site Anderson was pulled from the game for not hustling on an at-bat after he hit a ball. I laud Rick for not putting up with that bull**** but it makes you wonder...this is the third or fourth time this year he's had to do that. I mean the players know what is going to happen if they don't hustle, yet it keeps happening. Not very smart on their part. Unless frustration at all the losing just sets in and they say "screw it" from time to time. Either way that's not a good development no matter how you look at it. Scary stat of the night, Engle's batting average is now the same as Moncada's .225 YIKES! And we know how bad Engle is. ... Did you watch the play? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lip Man 1 Posted August 1, 2018 Share Posted August 1, 2018 Just now, Jose Abreu said: ... Did you watch the play? No I did not, I am going off the headline at the White Sox "official" web site. Given that it is their site things are generally cleared and approved before posting so someone felt the wording was accurate in describing why the benching took place. Was that wording wrong, if so can you explain why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted August 1, 2018 Share Posted August 1, 2018 2 minutes ago, Lip Man 1 said: No I did not, I am going off the headline at the White Sox "official" web site. Given that it is their site things are generally cleared and approved before posting so someone felt the wording was accurate in describing why the benching took place. Was that wording wrong, if so can you explain why? Yes, it is misleading. Anderson lined out to third but the umpire (incorrectly) ruled that it was a ground ball, so he had stopped running and the third baseman threw him out at first. Had Anderson ran it out and been safe, they would've just overturned it via video review since the ball was caught. If Renteria expects players to keep running when balls are clearly caught then we're gonna look foolish on the basepaths. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lip Man 1 Posted August 1, 2018 Share Posted August 1, 2018 (edited) Found this description of the play elsewhere: "Anderson smoked a low line drive to third with two men on and two outs. Initially it looked like the 3B caught it and I think Anderson froze a few steps out of the box thinking he was out. Ump signaled safe and the 3B for some odd reason threw to 2B for the force but the runner beat that easily. Anderson still wasn't running or had taken way to long to realize he was still in play but by then it was way too late and the 2B had him dead to rights. I think Anderson did give up at some point on the play after realizing he was not out on the initial snag so the benching was probably justified, but there are lots of guys who make that mistake and only the boneheaded decision by the 3B to go to second would have given Tim a chance." Edited August 1, 2018 by Lip Man 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lip Man 1 Posted August 1, 2018 Share Posted August 1, 2018 2 minutes ago, Jose Abreu said: Yes, it is misleading. Anderson lined out to third but the umpire (incorrectly) ruled that it was a ground ball, so he had stopped running and the third baseman threw him out at first. Had Anderson ran it out and been safe, they would've just overturned it via video review since the ball was caught. If Renteria expects players to keep running when balls are clearly caught then we're gonna look foolish on the basepaths. Odd situation to be sure but from what I just posted what probably got Anderson the heave - ho was (if accurate) he still wasn't running even after the umpire ruled the ball in play. That's what probably got to Ricky and if I remember right he's had to pull Anderson before for not hustling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted August 1, 2018 Share Posted August 1, 2018 14 minutes ago, Lip Man 1 said: According to the Sox web site Anderson was pulled from the game for not hustling on an at-bat after he hit a ball. I laud Rick for not putting up with that bull**** but it makes you wonder...this is the third or fourth time this year he's had to do that. I mean the players know what is going to happen if they don't hustle, yet it keeps happening. Not very smart on their part. Unless frustration at all the losing just sets in and they say "screw it" from time to time. Either way that's not a good development no matter how you look at it. Scary stat of the night, Engle's batting average is now the same as Moncada's .225 YIKES! And we know how bad Engle is. Well many posters seem to agree that it's a bad rule and renteria is an idiot for having the rule. Maybe the players agree as well as they don't seem to want to run to first base. I guess just us old oeople follow rukes placed upon us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted August 1, 2018 Share Posted August 1, 2018 At least he took it well. I think the problem with that written description is that it discounts the very likely event that had Anderson ran and been safe, video review would've overturned it since the ball was actually caught on the fly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted August 1, 2018 Share Posted August 1, 2018 Just now, ptatc said: Well many posters seem to agree that it's a bad rule and renteria is an idiot for having the rule. Maybe the players agree as well as they don't seem to want to run to first base. I guess just us old oeople follow rukes placed upon us. I actually agree with the rule but I think he overuses it in situations where it's not necessary. I don't think Anderson deserved to be benched for this one. If you're gonna bench a guy for not hustling, you should consider all the factors involved with the play Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 1, 2018 Share Posted August 1, 2018 1 minute ago, ptatc said: Well many posters seem to agree that it's a bad rule and renteria is an idiot for having the rule. Maybe the players agree as well as they don't seem to want to run to first base. I guess just us old oeople follow rukes placed upon us. This was a completely different situation than the previous ones we've seen. Still can't believe he benched him for that. Just more stupidity from the coaching staff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 1, 2018 Share Posted August 1, 2018 This is just a ridiculous comment by Ricky. Take that crap to high school softball: https://mobile.twitter.com/JRFegan/status/1024501452557959168 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lip Man 1 Posted August 1, 2018 Share Posted August 1, 2018 I see where the Sox web site has now changed the headline on Anderson's benching so Jose' may have a point there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted August 1, 2018 Share Posted August 1, 2018 16 minutes ago, Jose Abreu said: I actually agree with the rule but I think he overuses it in situations where it's not necessary. I don't think Anderson deserved to be benched for this one. If you're gonna bench a guy for not hustling, you should consider all the factors involved with the play That is a valid concern. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted August 1, 2018 Share Posted August 1, 2018 Pathetic, Renteria...you gone. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted August 1, 2018 Share Posted August 1, 2018 They have to do something about this field staff after the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tray Posted August 1, 2018 Share Posted August 1, 2018 Tim Anderson saw the catch then stopped running. It was a natural instinct. Players don't run out line drives that are caught for outs. And normally they don't get benched for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted August 1, 2018 Share Posted August 1, 2018 Renteria overreacted in this case. Choose your battles, dude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted August 1, 2018 Share Posted August 1, 2018 (edited) It’s a fine rule, but it was awful interpretation. You have to look at the situation, especially since replay showed it was caught, and he was out anyway. If it wasn’t a catch, the benching is fair game. Still would understand why Anderson didn’t run it out, but he would have to know he should have. But an obvious catch that had no chance of not being overturned? It was a ridiculous response by Renteria. Edited August 1, 2018 by Dick Allen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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