Chisoxfn Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 Wish Fangio nothing but the best. I wonder if we can make a late push for Bowles. Fangio should be able to make some noise with that Denver defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFanForever Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 Just now, Chisoxfn said: Wish Fangio nothing but the best. I wonder if we can make a late push for Bowles. Fangio should be able to make some noise with that Denver defense. Pretty sure Bowles is a lock to TB with Arians. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 Where do they go from here with all of the decent DCs available already taking jobs? I'd imagine Donatell is going with Fangio to Denver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 What a gut punch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTruth05 Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 I'd love to see Bowles come to Chicago, he'd be crazy to not consider dropping his TB commitment to coach an established elite Bears unit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 Well, good for him. From what I understand personality wise, steve wilks seems like he'd get along with Nagy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoSox05 Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 Chuck Pagano is still out there. I really hope they go with Ed Donatell. He was awful in Green Bay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxfan49 Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 3 minutes ago, SoxAce said: What a gut punch. I wouldn't say that. Fangio's defenses tend to get worse but this one didn't, probably because of all of the talent. It's a loss for sure but "gut punch" is an overreaction, imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTruth05 Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 1 minute ago, soxfan49 said: I wouldn't say that. Fangio's defenses tend to get worse but this one didn't, probably because of all of the talent. It's a loss for sure but "gut punch" is an overreaction, imo. Agreed, also don't care to keep Donatell. This defense has the speed and talent to play much more aggressive than they have under Fangio. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 (edited) 6 minutes ago, TheTruth05 said: Agreed, also don't care to keep Donatell. This defense has the speed and talent to play much more aggressive than they have under Fangio. 100% agree. They need someone who will design exotic blitz schemes. They 100% have 3-4 personnel, so getting a 3-4 DC is a must. Fangio was way too passive for my tastes. You don't run a 3-4 if you're not going to come up with crazy blitz packages. If they get the right guy, I could see Floyd absolutely becoming a monster next year. It isn't crazy to think that the defense could be even better with a more aggressive DC. Edited January 9, 2019 by Jack Parkman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 I guess that is the danger of being too good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 11 minutes ago, GoSox05 said: Chuck Pagano is still out there. I really hope they go with Ed Donatell. He was awful in Green Bay. Fangio was a bad coordinator in the early 2000s too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoSox05 Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 4 minutes ago, bmags said: Fangio was a bad coordinator in the early 2000s too. He was. I was actually thinking of another D coordinator with the Packers who really awful. Bob Sanders. Donatell wasn't all that bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 Wow, Biggs just said that Bowles hasn't signed a contract and is choosing between Bears and Bucs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 I was going to say, my gut was the Bears had to have feelers out to at least a top coordinator candidate or two in the case Vic was going to leave. If Vic was going to go, I'm glad it happened sooner vs. later (in the sense that the longer it played out...the less likely it would be to land other top assistants). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 5 minutes ago, Kyyle23 said: Wow, Biggs just said that Bowles hasn't signed a contract and is choosing between Bears and Bucs You would think that is an easy choice, as he'd have to build a 3-4 defense from scratch in Tampa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 Just now, Jack Parkman said: You would think that is an easy choice, as he'd have to build a 3-4 defense from scratch in Tampa. Not only that but the trajectory of the teams is very different at the moment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoSox05 Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 That Tampa defense needs a lot of work. Like 11 new starters. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 Fishbain made a good point that Nagy actually didn't hire anyone last year that he worked with previously, with exception of childress (perhaps was a position guy or two). Could be an interesting run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 1 minute ago, Kyyle23 said: Not only that but the trajectory of the teams is very different at the moment No kidding. Winston sucks, Trubisky is at least good, with the potential to be great. This should be a no-brainer for Bowles. The only bad thing is that we'll see a lot of typos spelling his name "Bowels" LOL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan99 Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 17 minutes ago, Jack Parkman said: 100% agree. They need someone who will design exotic blitz schemes. They 100% have 3-4 personnel, so getting a 3-4 DC is a must. Fangio was way too passive for my tastes. You don't run a 3-4 if you're not going to come up with crazy blitz packages. If they get the right guy, I could see Floyd absolutely becoming a monster next year. It isn't crazy to think that the defense could be even better with a more aggressive DC. Why would you want to blitz all the time when you are getting pressure with your front consistently? The Bears were 4th in the NFL in sacks and were by far the best pass defense in the NFL. The Bears were also 4th best in the NFL against the run. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTruth05 Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 Should be no contest really, sign Bowles up lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, whitesoxfan99 said: Why would you want to blitz all the time when you are getting pressure with your front consistently? The Bears were 4th in the NFL in sacks and were by far the best pass defense in the NFL. The Bears were also 4th best in the NFL against the run. They didn't vs. good OLs. Pederson completely schemed Mack out of the game. I don't want to blitz every down, just more often. Edited January 9, 2019 by Jack Parkman 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan99 Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 37 minutes ago, soxfan49 said: I wouldn't say that. Fangio's defenses tend to get worse but this one didn't, probably because of all of the talent. It's a loss for sure but "gut punch" is an overreaction, imo. Blatantly false. He had top 5 defenses in the NFL his entire time in San Francisco (if you want to point to points his last defense finished only 10th in points but they were top 5 in takeaways and yards allowed despite Willis missing most of that year and Aldon Smith missing most of the year). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxfan49 Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 RT @AdamSchefter: Hold off on those Todd-Bowles-to Tampa stories, for now. Matt Nagy’s father coached Todd Bowles in high school, and Bowles is being considered to replace Vic Fangio as Chicago’s defensive coordinator, per league sources. Nothing signed in Tampa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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