soxfan49 Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 16 minutes ago, Chisoxfn said: I agree. I feel like this move was a year early. Taking more risk than I'd like but could certainly pan out. Hopefully it does. What move? Mack wasn't going to be available in 2019. There's a good chance that a guy like this isn't traded again for another decade. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanne Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 (edited) 10 minutes ago, soxfan49 said: What move? Mack wasn't going to be available in 2019. There's a good chance that a guy like this isn't traded again for another decade. Agreed...it’s rare you get an opportunity to get a PROVEN all pro caliber player like Khalil Mack. Steep price but well worth it. Puts the D at a whole new level. I’m pumped! Edited September 1, 2018 by Wanne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000957581/article/winners-losers-from-khalil-macks-trade-to-bears Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 Makes the offense less important as the defense should be able to win games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 51 minutes ago, soxfan49 said: What move? Mack wasn't going to be available in 2019. There's a good chance that a guy like this isn't traded again for another decade. I meant it more that I think we are a year away from needing to make this kind of move. That said generational talent like Mack doesn’t always come available so I certainly understand the move. I just think that our offense will still have growing pains and even defensively Mack and Smith haven’t had any real practice in our system. I still view us as a 7 to 10 win team largely due to inconsistencies on offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxfan49 Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 7 minutes ago, Chisoxfn said: I meant it more that I think we are a year away from needing to make this kind of move. That said generational talent like Mack doesn’t always come available so I certainly understand the move. I just think that our offense will still have growing pains and even defensively Mack and Smith haven’t had any real practice in our system. I still view us as a 7 to 10 win team largely due to inconsistencies on offense. I believe 2019-2021 are the prime years for this roster assuming Trubisky is good, so while I'm with you on the fact that it won't be a SB team this year, a Mack acquisition is big time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 1 minute ago, soxfan49 said: I believe 2019-2021 are the prime years for this roster assuming Trubisky is good, so while I'm with you on the fact that it won't be a SB team this year, a Mack acquisition is big time. Long term I like the direction the arrow is headed. Now we need to hope the on field production of the team backs that statement. Sucks we don’t play in AFC. NFC is so loaded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 How fast until Mack can play? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanne Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 16 minutes ago, Chisoxfn said: I meant it more that I think we are a year away from needing to make this kind of move. That said generational talent like Mack doesn’t always come available so I certainly understand the move. I just think that our offense will still have growing pains and even defensively Mack and Smith haven’t had any real practice in our system. I still view us as a 7 to 10 win team largely due to inconsistencies on offense. yeah...I'm not getting overly optimistic for this year. Next year tho I think the Bears will be in the convo for playoff teams. Having Mack and Roquan grow together in Fangio's D...that's scary for teams in the NFC North I think. My concern is the same...growing pains with the O. Daniel made it looks seamless...but the fact that Trubisky only attempted 18 passes in the preseason and saw very limited action concerns me. At least we know he's not dinged up lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 3 hours ago, soxfan49 said: The Saints traded two first round picks for a rookie DE/OLB from Texas-San Antonio. The Bears traded two first round picks for arguably the most terrorizing defensive player in the sport. I know some of you love draft picks, but considering Mack's abilities and Pace's ability to draft well later in the draft, I'm f***ing pumped up. While I’m fully supportive & excited about the trade, let’s not ignore we’re giving up two 1st round picks PLUS making him the highest paid defensive player in the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 This is crazy. The Bears may actually be the 2nd best team in Chicago this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 One reminder...Vegas revised their Super Bowl odds from 100-1 to 60-1. Raiders purely moved to 25-1 (and no one has them as a super bowl darling). Just saying...there is still a lot to prove and there is still a decent chance we will have the worse record in the NFC north. Saying it more so that people don't jump off cliffs when we have the inherent growing pains associated with new staff + so many new faces. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxfan49 Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 1 hour ago, Chisoxfn said: How fast until Mack can play? September 9 at 7:20 pm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 wow, you just don't see this sort of trade happening in the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 3 hours ago, Dick Allen said: It is also nice the Raiders hired an egomaniac to coach them. A guy who has bought his own hype to the point where he doesn’t think he needs stars to win. So the Broncos hired an egomaniac and the Bears sent them 2 first rounders, then the Raiders hired one and the Bears sent them 2 first rounders. I have no point with this just found it fascinating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thxfrthmmrs Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 4 hours ago, soxfan49 said: That's what I said. Even if Mack is Reggie White, the team stinks and everyone is fired in January 2022 if Trubisky is Christian Ponder/EJ Manuel/Blake Bortles. You said bears aren’t picking in the top 15 anymore but will pick in the bottom third which simply isn’t true. With how good NFC is and how raw Trub was last year, I think we’re likely to finish in 7-12 again than 20-30. I think Bears made this move also thinking they are ready to be good, which I don’t think it’s true. This is a lot of value we’re giving up and I could only hope it pays off. It’s also worth noting Mack wasn’t as good last year compared to his first 2 years. You just hope it’s because the Raiders poor performance as a team, not that teams have figured him out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 3 hours ago, Chisoxfn said: I agree. I feel like this move was a year early. Taking more risk than I'd like but could certainly pan out. Hopefully it does. Yeah, perhaps it is, but these kind of opportunities don’t come along often. It was an outstanding fit for many reasons, and I think it was worth making the move. It’s the same type of thing the White Sox may have to do in the next 12-18 months. It’s unlikely everything is going to line up perfectly with your window. But if a generational-type player comes along and fills a need, I think you need to jump at the chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Brian Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 Kinda feel like we robbed Oakland/Las Vegas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 We even got a second round pick back. That is just ridiculous by Pace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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LittleHurt05 Posted September 1, 2018 Author Share Posted September 1, 2018 6 minutes ago, SoxAce said: We even got a second round pick back. That is just ridiculous by Pace. If everything works according to plan, that 2020 1st round pick Pace traded wont be very far from the 2nd round pick he acquired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 Ryan Pace just fleeced John Gruden lol. What an amazing trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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