flavum Posted August 1, 2018 Share Posted August 1, 2018 http://www.milb.com/scoreboard/index.jsp?cid=&lid=&org=145&sc=&sid=milb&t=affiliate&ymd=20180801 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted August 1, 2018 Author Share Posted August 1, 2018 Madrigal 0-3, but still K-less Only one error as a pro too, and that was at SS in Arz. It seems like they have just made him a 2B only guy now, so I’d have no problem flipping Sanchez and Moncada in Chicago. Face the inevitable now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted August 1, 2018 Share Posted August 1, 2018 First time Madrigal has fallen below an 800 ops with Kanny... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thxfrthmmrs Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 26 minutes ago, caulfield12 said: First time Madrigal has fallen below an 800 ops with Kanny... And are you starting a Madrigal thread in PHT ranting about how Madrigal is a bust and this rebuild has been a failure? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 Nope, have to stand by my pick since the beginning of May...no turning back now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 No Eloy ? Hmmmmm.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 13 minutes ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said: No Eloy ? Hmmmmm.... They said it's a regular day of rest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxBlanco Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 Another great start by Flores. He continues to produce since getting promoted to Birmingham. He’s slowly becoming one of my favorite prospects. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 11 game hitting streak for Sosa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigHurt3515 Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 Alfaro is on fire in GF. 3-4, 2B tonight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dam8610 Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 3 hours ago, SoxBlanco said: Another great start by Flores. He continues to produce since getting promoted to Birmingham. He’s slowly becoming one of my favorite prospects. He and Lambert have both developed into legitimate prospects with mid-rotation ceiling. The development staff should get some credit for this considering how quick everyone typically is to place the blame with them when things go wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danman31 Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 55 minutes ago, BigHurt3515 said: Alfaro is on fire in GF. 3-4, 2B tonight I noticed that too. He's still just 20. The Sox must have seen something in him because they had him in Arizona 3 years ago at 17. Finally getting some production to go with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxJon Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 Beltre, Sosa, Nunez, and Alfaro gonna be a fun bunch at KAN next year with Zangari Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zisk Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 10 hours ago, SoxBlanco said: Another great start by Flores. He continues to produce since getting promoted to Birmingham. He’s slowly becoming one of my favorite prospects. Been following him for 2 years now and all he does is get guys out. Between Flores and Medieros, we should be fine from the left side. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 Flores K rate is 6.67 per 9. Really doesn't miss enough bats. On the other hand, the Braves pitcher who dominated the Sox in game 1 averages almost 12Ks per 9 - and he's not in their top 30. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsox Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 2 hours ago, ChiSoxJon said: Beltre, Sosa, Nunez, and Alfaro gonna be a fun bunch at KAN next year with Zangari And Sowers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxJon Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 20 minutes ago, oldsox said: And Sowers. Along with a rotation featuring Pilkington, Martin, Stiever, Heuer, and Bilous...Should be another strong KAN team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxBlanco Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 3 hours ago, GreenSox said: Flores K rate is 6.67 per 9. Really doesn't miss enough bats. On the other hand, the Braves pitcher who dominated the Sox in game 1 averages almost 12Ks per 9 - and he's not in their top 30. Are you saying he doesn’t miss enough bats to be successful in the majors? Or he doesn’t miss enough bats to be a highly ranked prospect? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zisk Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 4 hours ago, GreenSox said: Flores K rate is 6.67 per 9. Really doesn't miss enough bats. On the other hand, the Braves pitcher who dominated the Sox in game 1 averages almost 12Ks per 9 - and he's not in their top 30. How many bats did Marl Beurhle miss 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigHurt3515 Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 1 minute ago, zisk said: How many bats did Marl Beurhle miss Haven't heard of that guy before. /s But I did ask that a week or so ago. I was trying to see if anyone had a scouting report to see if he was Buehrle type of pitcher Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxBlanco Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 8 minutes ago, BigHurt3515 said: Haven't heard of that guy before. /s But I did ask that a week or so ago. I was trying to see if anyone had a scouting report to see if he was Buehrle type of pitcher Scouting Report via MLB.com: After pitching sparingly in three college seasons at Southern California, Flores signed as a seventh-round pick in 2016 and quickly established himself as the best left-handed pitching prospect in the White Sox system. Then his stuff regressed in his first full pro season, which ended three weeks early after he strained an oblique. Working with diminished velocity helped him become a better pitcher, however, and he has consistently registered quality starts throughout '18. Flores' fastball velocity fluctuated from 88-97 mph with the Trojans, parked at 92-97 during his pro debut, but sat around 90 mph in 2017. He's working at 90-94 mph this year, giving him more separation from a quality changeup that can be a well above-average pitch at its best. He has tightened his curveball in '18 and also will mix in a slider/cutter. Flores' control was as inconsistent as his fastball in college, but he has pounded the strike zone throughout his pro career. Though he doesn't have a plus pitch and doesn't miss a lot of bats -- both of which limit his ceiling -- he has a reasonably high floor as a back-of-the-rotation starter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigHurt3515 Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 47 minutes ago, SoxBlanco said: Scouting Report via MLB.com: After pitching sparingly in three college seasons at Southern California, Flores signed as a seventh-round pick in 2016 and quickly established himself as the best left-handed pitching prospect in the White Sox system. Then his stuff regressed in his first full pro season, which ended three weeks early after he strained an oblique. Working with diminished velocity helped him become a better pitcher, however, and he has consistently registered quality starts throughout '18. Flores' fastball velocity fluctuated from 88-97 mph with the Trojans, parked at 92-97 during his pro debut, but sat around 90 mph in 2017. He's working at 90-94 mph this year, giving him more separation from a quality changeup that can be a well above-average pitch at its best. He has tightened his curveball in '18 and also will mix in a slider/cutter. Flores' control was as inconsistent as his fastball in college, but he has pounded the strike zone throughout his pro career. Though he doesn't have a plus pitch and doesn't miss a lot of bats -- both of which limit his ceiling -- he has a reasonably high floor as a back-of-the-rotation starter. The cutter, lower velocity fastball, and change up sounds like a Buehrle type of pitcher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, zisk said: How many bats did Marl Beurhle miss MB could paint the corner at the bottom of the knee pitch after pitch. Command out the wazzu. With today's hitters, he'd get more Ks. As it was, his WHIP was .94 in Birmingham. If the scouts say that Flores doing that and inducing weak contact, then that's great too. But I don't see scouting reports, so the only stat that lets me know about "stuff" or contact is the K rate. Edited August 2, 2018 by GreenSox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daggins Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 K/BB ratio is also important, and Flores' is good (6K/1.94BB). He has excellent control, despite the lack of Ks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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