Chicago White Sox Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 We better hope Lucas brings it tonight! Go Sox! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorStSox Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 After Giolito's last few outings and Lopez last night, I'm almost excited to watch a baseball game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwolf68 Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 I enjoy pain...I am starting Gio in my fantasy league. Come on boy keep your momentum going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcq Posted August 9, 2018 Share Posted August 9, 2018 A win tonite means we played the Yanx almost even. Meanwhile we have two guys who came to the Sox and improved their hitting in Omar and Palka. I would give Moncada a rest and suggest maybe he crowds the plate as a lefty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted August 9, 2018 Share Posted August 9, 2018 Another ball called a strike against Moncada. 1-2 count should’ve been 2-1. That pitch is called a ball 89% of the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwolf68 Posted August 9, 2018 Share Posted August 9, 2018 Liking the start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted August 9, 2018 Share Posted August 9, 2018 Abreu with the Ron Batted In 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwolf68 Posted August 9, 2018 Share Posted August 9, 2018 2 nill good guys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ttommarello823 Posted August 9, 2018 Share Posted August 9, 2018 Just imagine if our leadoff hitter could get on base! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sir Posted August 9, 2018 Share Posted August 9, 2018 2 minutes ago, Jose Abreu said: Another ball called a strike against Moncada. 1-2 count should’ve been 2-1. That pitch is called a ball 89% of the time. This is really tiring. Is there any point where Moncada is actually held responsible for his failures, or are we just going to blame his struggles on umpires? He can get better and he can continue to develop, but we can't just treat him like a golden boy. Right now, he's struck out 17 times in his last 29 PAs. That is NOT the umpires' fault. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 9, 2018 Share Posted August 9, 2018 3 minutes ago, Jose Abreu said: Another ball called a strike against Moncada. 1-2 count should’ve been 2-1. That pitch is called a ball 89% of the time. And another at bat though where he takes fastballs and swings at offspeed pitches. If he doesn't change things up, this collapse will continue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted August 9, 2018 Share Posted August 9, 2018 3 minutes ago, The Sir said: This is really tiring. Is there any point where Moncada is actually held responsible for his failures, or are we just going to blame his struggles on umpires? He can get better and he can continue to develop, but we can't just treat him like a golden boy. Right now, he's struck out 17 times in his last 29 PAs. That is NOT the umpires' fault. When did I say it was? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted August 9, 2018 Author Share Posted August 9, 2018 Come on Lucas, don’t lose your shit now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sir Posted August 9, 2018 Share Posted August 9, 2018 2 minutes ago, Jose Abreu said: When did I say it was? I'd say you strongly implied it, and IIRC, you were talking about his strike zone yesterday too. I just don't get why the umpires get any mention is this. Right now, the kid is playing terribly. I don't want to demote him and I don't want to bench him, because he needs reps, but I don't want to make excuses for him either. His game needs serious work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
footlongcomiskeydog Posted August 9, 2018 Share Posted August 9, 2018 5 minutes ago, The Sir said: This is really tiring. Is there any point where Moncada is actually held responsible for his failures, or are we just going to blame his struggles on umpires? He can get better and he can continue to develop, but we can't just treat him like a golden boy. Right now, he's struck out 17 times in his last 29 PAs. That is NOT the umpires' fault. It's just straight up denial at this point. It's much easier to handle his collapse by having a scapegoat. Blame the umps, blame the weather, blame the stars... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted August 9, 2018 Share Posted August 9, 2018 1 minute ago, The Sir said: I'd say you strongly implied it, and IIRC, you were talking about his strike zone yesterday too. I just don't get why the umpires get any mention is this. Right now, the kid is playing terribly. I don't want to demote him and I don't want to bench him, because he needs reps, but I don't want to make excuses for him either. His game needs serious work. I mean, the difference between a 2-1 count and a 1-2 count is pretty massive. Obviosuly he’s in a funk and this doesn’t happen EVERY at bat, but it would be just as ridiculous to ignore him getting screwed over on obvious balls as it would be to act like they’re the sole reason he’s in a slump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sir Posted August 9, 2018 Share Posted August 9, 2018 3 minutes ago, footlongcomiskeydog said: It's just straight up denial at this point. It's much easier to handle his collapse by having a scapegoat. Blame the umps, blame the weather, blame the stars... I just don't get it. Do we want him to get better or do we just want him to be protected? We keep hearing about his amazing batting eye, but honestly, when you strike out looking as much as he does, I question how amazing it is. He needs to be more aggressive early in counts because his splits bear out that he is actually successful in those situations. When he gets two strikes on him, however, he is up shit-creek, batting eye be damned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwolf68 Posted August 9, 2018 Share Posted August 9, 2018 (edited) Gio on pace for about 4-5 innings tonight. IF we're lucky. Edited August 9, 2018 by kwolf68 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted August 9, 2018 Author Share Posted August 9, 2018 1 minute ago, Jose Abreu said: I mean, the difference between a 2-1 count and a 1-2 count is pretty massive. Obviosuly he’s in a funk and this doesn’t happen EVERY at bat, but it would be just as ridiculous to ignore him getting screwed over on obvious balls as it would be to act like they’re the sole reason he’s in a slump. I agree with you, but at the end of the day he needs to earn the umps’ respect on close calls and until then he needs to protect the plate. I may be Moncada’a biggest supporter on this board, but doing nothing will not solve the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 9, 2018 Share Posted August 9, 2018 Lucas gonna get in trouble tonight if his command stays poor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwolf68 Posted August 9, 2018 Share Posted August 9, 2018 Meltdown Lucas. Geeze. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 9, 2018 Share Posted August 9, 2018 Our outfielders are playing way too deep against crappy hitters. Lucas doesn't have much on his fastball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted August 9, 2018 Share Posted August 9, 2018 15 minutes ago, The Sir said: This is really tiring. Is there any point where Moncada is actually held responsible for his failures, or are we just going to blame his struggles on umpires? He can get better and he can continue to develop, but we can't just treat him like a golden boy. Right now, he's struck out 17 times in his last 29 PAs. That is NOT the umpires' fault. When you have been called out somewhere around 40 times on pitches out of the zone, you are wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorStSox Posted August 9, 2018 Share Posted August 9, 2018 Giolito doesn't believe in his stuff. He's scared to challenge hitters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 9, 2018 Share Posted August 9, 2018 Just now, southsider2k5 said: When you have been called out somewhere around 40 times on pitches out of the zone, you are wrong. I didn't think it was 40 wrong calls. Some of those were on the edges, IIRC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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