LittleHurt05 Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTruth05 Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 Nats are such a joke, i guess better late than never. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sockin Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 (edited) Oh boy. The Dodgers claimed Harper. Edited August 21, 2018 by Sockin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sir Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 OK, this is probably a dumb question...but how does this work? I mean, Daniel Murphy must have cleared waivers so that he can be traded outright, but what about the players the Cubs are giving to the Nats? Did they have to clear waivers too? What about trading minor league players in August? It seems like a really dumb time to do this, either way. No way in Hell they're going to get the return for, say, Harper that they might have secured three weeks ago, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsox Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 Right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 you can trade someone not on the 40 man roster. Dodgers could have enough in their minor league system to make this tempting for Nationals. Guys like Lux and Ruiz might not be on the 40 man? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsox Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 SoxTalk breaks news before ESPN. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 Heyman reporting Harper's not being traded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan99 Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 5 minutes ago, fathom said: you can trade someone not on the 40 man roster. Dodgers could have enough in their minor league system to make this tempting for Nationals. Guys like Lux and Ruiz might not be on the 40 man? Almost positive neither are and both would almost certainly be valued more than the 1st round pick the Nationals will get if Harper signs elsewhere this offseason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Sockin said: Oh boy. The Dodgers claimed Harper. Well every team can place a claim on a player. No team before the Dodgers would have won the claim? Edited August 21, 2018 by soxfan2014 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 2 minutes ago, soxfan2014 said: Well every team can place a claim on a player. No team before the Dodgers would have won the claim? They have the worst record of the NL teams in contention. So, basically they were first in line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 3 minutes ago, soxfan2014 said: Well every team can place a claim on a player. No team before the Dodgers would have won the claim? For low level teams, no reason to do so. If you aren't contending, why bother? You aren't going to package up prospects for a guy who is leaving in two months. The teams below the Dodgers really don't have a chance at contending anyways. There is also probably an element of believing they won't trade Harper anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan99 Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 7 minutes ago, fathom said: Heyman reporting Harper's not being traded. Damn, that would have been fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFirebird Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 1 minute ago, Dick Allen said: They have the worst record of the NL teams in contention. So, basically they were first in line. This is exactly how they won the claim. Pretty much standard procedure because even if they don't get him they block anyone else from getting him. This kind of stuff has happened for years without really getting reported on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 (edited) 1 minute ago, southsider2k5 said: For low level teams, no reason to do so. If you aren't contending, why bother? You aren't going to package up prospects for a guy who is leaving in two months. The teams below the Dodgers really don't have a chance at contending anyways. There is also probably an element of believing they won't trade Harper anyway. Because teams can block other teams. Example: Giants put a claim in and win it with zero motivation to even discuss a deal. Then after 48 hours, Harper gets pulled back by the Nats. Edited August 21, 2018 by soxfan2014 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 Just now, soxfan2014 said: Cuz you can block other teams. Giants put a claim in and win it with zero motivation to even discuss a deal. Then after 48 hours, Harper gets pulled back. Typically teams don't get that dirty unless they are contending. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 2 minutes ago, whitesoxfan99 said: Damn, that would have been fun. There was literally almost no chance it was going happen haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 Just now, soxfan2014 said: There was literally almost no chance it was going happen haha Yah, but that team would have been silly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 1 minute ago, ChiSox59 said: Yah, but that team would have been silly. I don't get how their record is so poor. I was watching their game last night and it seems they have 11 or 12 above average "name" hitters on their roster. I hope they get into NL Wild Card and play Cubs in NLDS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 2 minutes ago, fathom said: I don't get how their record is so poor. I was watching their game last night and it seems they have 11 or 12 above average "name" hitters on their roster. I hope they get into NL Wild Card and play Cubs in NLDS. They were 12-16 through april, 26-30 through May. Losing Seager and starting the year without Turner didnt help, plus Kershaw has been on and off the DL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 It's crazy that the nats never did more in the playoffs. Still, Murphy and Scherzer have to be two of the best FA deals of the 00s right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 Wonder if the Sox floated anyone? Abreu? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxfan49 Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 What was the point of WASH holding onto Harper? There's virtually no chance he signs an extension there, so why not deal him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 30 minutes ago, soxfan2014 said: Because teams can block other teams. Example: Giants put a claim in and win it with zero motivation to even discuss a deal. Then after 48 hours, Harper gets pulled back by the Nats. Yes, but it's money they would have to pay if they somehow were awarded the claim. SF might have a luxury tax problem as well, and I do think there is some reciprocity. Some year when the Giants are contending and the Dodgers not, if they claimed him this year, maybe that happens the wrong way for them in the future. Best not to worry about other teams when you are out of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 16 minutes ago, soxfan49 said: What was the point of WASH holding onto Harper? There's virtually no chance he signs an extension there, so why not deal him? Why do you think they have no chance of re-signing him? They have $$ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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