fathom Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 1 minute ago, GGajewski18 said: This is great. They'll bring Bummer back up eventually. Fry and Bummer and Frare will be your lefties. Cedeno is controlled as well, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BamaDoc Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 Also potential 5-6 years of player needing protection > one year of Avilan especially when next year is a non contending year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 Yeah now that I think of it, it's almost criminal that we didn't call up Bummer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 1 minute ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said: When the other team knows you need to protect players who are Rue 5 eligible it hurts your bargaining position. The Sox have plenty of spots for guys that are a real risk to be taken unless they plan on signing multiple FAs. It definitely isn't to the point of hurting negotiating power ala the situation a team like the Yankees are in this offseason, and likely the Sox next offseason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 7 minutes ago, ChiSox59 said: Yah, I don't really get it. Avilan has come back to earth quite a bit lately, but still....would think Hahn would have been able to do better at some point if he held onto Avilan. He is a quality major league reliever. Realistically, there had to be no offers of value on the table here. Hahn held on to him through the first deadline, when he would have loved to have moved him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 5 minutes ago, fathom said: Cedeno is controlled as well, right? He came into this year with 4 years and 60 days of service. I think that makes him a second year arb player by the end of the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 4 minutes ago, Jake said: Yeah now that I think of it, it's almost criminal that we didn't call up Bummer He'll be up in less than 2 weeks, no big deal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 1 minute ago, southsider2k5 said: Realistically, there had to be no offers of value on the table here. Hahn held on to him through the first deadline, when he would have loved to have moved him. Right. Just a little puzzling. Its certainly not a huge deal. Avilan was never going to return anything significant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harfman77 Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 2 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: Realistically, there had to be no offers of value on the table here. Hahn held on to him through the first deadline, when he would have loved to have moved him. Or that he didn't make it through waivers and this was getting anything in return that you could given that it is a closed market. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 4 minutes ago, ChiSox59 said: The Sox have plenty of spots for guys that are a real risk to be taken unless they plan on signing multiple FAs. It definitely isn't to the point of hurting negotiating power ala the situation a team like the Yankees are in this offseason, and likely the Sox next offseason. I think that is the plan. The Sox will add free agents this off season. I'd guess 2 of them minimum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 1 minute ago, southsider2k5 said: He came into this year with 4 years and 60 days of service. I think that makes him a second year arb player by the end of the season. BR says he's controlled thru next season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 5 minutes ago, Jake said: Yeah now that I think of it, it's almost criminal that we didn't call up Bummer Thinking about it a bit more, the RH relief in the pen is pretty awful right now. I wonder if that is why we saw Burr (a righty) versus Frare or Bummer (lefties) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 There is really no need for 4 lefties in our pen when we don't have a single reliable righty to go with them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 1 minute ago, harfman77 said: Or that he didn't make it through waivers and this was getting anything in return that you could given that it is a closed market. That means he made it all of the way through the AL, and to the end of the NL before getting claimed. That alone is probably a pretty good indication of the value of Luis Avilian if NO ONE in the AL claimed him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 1 minute ago, southsider2k5 said: Thinking about it a bit more, the RH relief in the pen is pretty awful right now. I wonder if that is why we saw Burr (a righty) versus Frare or Bummer (lefties) Also still have three lefties in the pen in Santiago, Cedeno and Fry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 3 minutes ago, harfman77 said: Or that he didn't make it through waivers and this was getting anything in return that you could given that it is a closed market. Right, but that holds a little less water when he is controlled thru 2019 and can be traded to anyone again in the offseason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 Just now, southsider2k5 said: That means he made it all of the way through the AL, and to the end of the NL before getting claimed. That alone is probably a pretty good indication of the value of Luis Avilian if NO ONE in the AL claimed him. Yep I was hoping the Dodgers would want both Avilan and Cedeno in a package deal since their BP is a mess that has to addressed soon. They didn't pick uo Machado and Dozier to not make the playoffs, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 Ring of Fire was an interesting choice of walk in music. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elrockinMT Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 We have young prospects in the minors knocking on the door. Avilan was not a part of the long term plans Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 3 minutes ago, Buehrle>Wood said: Oh for f***'s sake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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bmags Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 Not gonna lie I think this move is stupid. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 ESPN has to be trolling at this point. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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