Chicago White Sox Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 Hopefully this is Shields' final start with the Sox and he can end his tenure on a high note! Go Sox!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 6pm start in Chicago, 4pm for us west coasters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 I am still hoping he gets scratched and traded, but it is, what it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 i have a feeling that Stanton is going to hit one off Shields that will make exit velocity fans all hot and bothered Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ducksnort Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 What are the odds they exercise the club option on Shields' contract and put him as the 5th man to start the year until Cease gets the call, while putting Adams and/or Stephens in the pen in place of Hector? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 Just now, Scoots said: What are the odds they exercise the club option on Shields' contract and put him as the 5th man to start the year until Cease gets the call, while putting Adams and/or Stephens in the pen in place of Hector? 0.0% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 2 minutes ago, Scoots said: What are the odds they exercise the club option on Shields' contract and put him as the 5th man to start the year until Cease gets the call, while putting Adams and/or Stephens in the pen in place of Hector? See above. If the question were "what are the odds they decline his option, then re-sign him anyway to a cheaper 1-year deal as a 5th starter until Cease is ready", then I'd probably put it closer to 25% 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 7 minutes ago, Scoots said: What are the odds they exercise the club option on Shields' contract and put him as the 5th man to start the year until Cease gets the call, while putting Adams and/or Stephens in the pen in place of Hector? About the odds that they play their home games at Wrigley Field next year. If Shields was a $20 million pitcher, he would have been traded a long time ago. Now it wouldn't shock me if the White Sox decline his option, and then bring him back on something like a 1 year/$5 million deal as a bridge man, but no way he gets his option picked up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ducksnort Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 1 minute ago, southsider2k5 said: About the odds that they play their home games at Wrigley Field next year. If Shields was a $20 million pitcher, he would have been traded a long time ago. Now it wouldn't shock me if the White Sox decline his option, and then bring him back on something like a 1 year/$5 million deal as a bridge man, but no way he gets his option picked up. Right, I guess I didn't know how much the option was. That's the real point I'm trying to get at, what are everyone's thoughts on the likelihood that he returns next season, or are we going to try Adams or Stephens in that 5th starter spot? Or can Rodon live up to the role of experienced veteran, because that's what he will be relative to the rest of the guys on the staff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 6 minutes ago, Scoots said: Right, I guess I didn't know how much the option was. That's the real point I'm trying to get at, what are everyone's thoughts on the likelihood that he returns next season, or are we going to try Adams or Stephens in that 5th starter spot? Or can Rodon live up to the role of experienced veteran, because that's what he will be relative to the rest of the guys on the staff. Looking back, it is actually $16 million, but yes, it isn't happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonofaRoache Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 There is no point in giving Shields a shot at any price. I'd rather sign a guy we could actually flip for an asset when another pitcher is ready to come up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elrockinMT Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 Let’s strive mightily to win this game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elrockinMT Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 44 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: About the odds that they play their home games at Wrigley Field next year. If Shields was a $20 million pitcher, he would have been traded a long time ago. Now it wouldn't shock me if the White Sox decline his option, and then bring him back on something like a 1 year/$5 million deal as a bridge man, but no way he gets his option picked up. I think we have both mentioned this before and I could still see this happening. If they were to pick up his option I think it’s at his salary of this season right? The Sox aren’t going to do that but might give him $5-$6M to sign for another year or two. I see a rotation in 2019 of Rodon, Giolito, Lopez and Kopech and an open spot. The question to be answered in it someone like a Shields or do they promote Cease out of Spring Training? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 1 minute ago, elrockinMT said: I think we have both mentioned this before and I could still see this happening. If they were to pick up his option I think it’s at his salary of this season right? The Sox aren’t going to do that but might give him $5-$6M to sign for another year or two. I see a rotation in 2019 of Rodon, Giolito, Lopez and Kopech and an open spot. The question to be answered in it someone like a Shields or do they promote Cease out of Spring Training? Cease is probably a guy who gets here in September of 2019 at the soonest. He still has a pretty big innings deficit to make up before he is really ready to pitch in the big leagues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted August 28, 2018 Author Share Posted August 28, 2018 1 hour ago, Scoots said: What are the odds they exercise the club option on Shields' contract and put him as the 5th man to start the year until Cease gets the call, while putting Adams and/or Stephens in the pen in place of Hector? -100%? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 36 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: Cease is probably a guy who gets here in September of 2019 at the soonest. He still has a pretty big innings deficit to make up before he is really ready to pitch in the big leagues. I've seen a few posts that suggest Cease being up next year either mid season or even earlier. The chances of that happening arel extremely slim. 2017 he pitched around 94 ininnings. 2018 124 innings before they shut him down. Cease also had Tommy John surgery after he was drafted, Here's a link to a Q an A with Dylan talking about how being brought along slowly has helped him and how much he improved as a pitcher following the surgery from March of 2017. https://www.mlb.com/news/cubs-prospect-dylan-cease-on-tommy-john/c-219438510 Handling him with care is what's worked so far. He definitely won't be a guy they rush. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 Just now, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said: I've seen a few posts that suggest Cease being up next year either mid season or even earlier. The chances of that happening arel extremely slim. 2017 he pitched around 94 ininnings. 2018 124 innings before they shut him down. Cease also had Tommy John surgery after he was drafted, Here's a link to a Q an A with Dylan talking about how being brought along slowly has helped him and how much he improved as a pitcher following the surgery from March of 2017. https://www.mlb.com/news/cubs-prospect-dylan-cease-on-tommy-john/c-219438510 Handling him with care is what's worked so far. He definitely won't be a guy they rush. If you follow the Kopech line, Cease is probably a 2020 call up. Remember Kopech spent the end of last season at AAA, and then went back and spent until the middle of August there. Cease only got 10 starts at AA. He could very well start out in Birmingham again for a couple of months, and move up at the ASB like he did this year from Winston Salem to Bham. Early to middle 2019 is WAY to quick for a guy who is at such a low innings total. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 7 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: If you follow the Kopech line, Cease is probably a 2020 call up. Remember Kopech spent the end of last season at AAA, and then went back and spent until the middle of August there. Cease only got 10 starts at AA. He could very well start out in Birmingham again for a couple of months, and move up at the ASB like he did this year from Winston Salem to Bham. Early to middle 2019 is WAY to quick for a guy who is at such a low innings total. I could see him starting 2019 in AAA. His last 6 starts in AA were ridiculously good., like an 0,29 ERA and he did better in AA than he did in A+ . But also more innings at A+ so I could see him returning to AA also. A 2020 call up seems about right barring any unforeseen dramas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 17 minutes ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said: I could see him starting 2019 in AAA. His last 6 starts in AA were ridiculously good., like an 0,29 ERA and he did better in AA than he did in A+ . But also more innings at A+ so I could see him returning to AA also. A 2020 call up seems about right barring any unforeseen dramas Kopech got 22 starts in Birmingham. Cease has had 10. I think he at least starts there next year, maybe it won't last as long as the All-Star Break, but that is what I would bet on based on recent behavior. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 (edited) 4 hours ago, Chicago White Sox said: Hopefully this is Shields' final start with the Sox and he can end his tenure on a high note! Go Sox!!! Don't get your hopes up for wither of those things. I'll guess the Sox quest for a season high 5 game win streak ends tonight. If not there is some serious cosmic mojo happening . Edited August 28, 2018 by CaliSoxFanViaSWside typo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 51 minutes ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said: Don't get your hopes up for wither of those things. I'll guess the Sox quest for a season high 5 game win streak ends tonight. If not there is some serious cosmic mojo happening . Both Manaea and Anderson are injured for Oakland, Call them up Hahn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 JFC what an absolutely awful lineup Renteria constructed tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 1 minute ago, chitownsportsfan said: JFC what an absolutely awful lineup Renteria constructed tonight. It's Renteria, what do you expect??? He sucks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcq Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 You guys might remember Big Games' last road win. OD-KC when they scored about 13 runs or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 lol, is that Abreu playing 1B for the Yankees? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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