Dam8610 Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 8 minutes ago, soxfan2014 said: Fine with me! I was asking if that was the strategy behind your thinking there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joejoedairy Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 What is the anticipated salary for Arenado, considering his career OPS outside of Coors is right around .800, but knowing he is still a great hitter and probably an even better defender? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsox Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 1 hour ago, joejoedairy said: What is the anticipated salary for Arenado, considering his career OPS outside of Coors is right around .800, but knowing he is still a great hitter and probably an even better defender? $26 Million anticipated arbitration. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 1 hour ago, Dam8610 said: I was asking if that was the strategy behind your thinking there. It wasn't but it isn't a bad plan. Lose out on Machado, sign Donaldson to a one year deal, try again the next year with Arenado. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lip Man 1 Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 33 minutes ago, soxfan2014 said: It wasn't but it isn't a bad plan. Lose out on Machado, sign Donaldson to a one year deal, try again the next year with Arenado. For whatever its worth I saw a story yesterday where Arenado said he hopes to resign with Colorado especially since they made the playoffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 15 minutes ago, Lip Man 1 said: For whatever its worth I saw a story yesterday where Arenado said he hopes to resign with Colorado especially since they made the playoffs. Yeah I'm not sure he will go to free agency. Rockies are known to lock up their franchise players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 Why would Arenado be any more likely than Machado or Harper? We might as well be saying Rendon and crossing fingers on health...which makes him a better value financially but still high-risk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 I personally believe Arenado will re-sign with Colorado and Rendon will either re-sign with Washington or retire, as he doesn't seem to like playing baseball at all. That's why it's crucial to me that we go hard after Machado. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 (edited) 22 minutes ago, Jose Abreu said: I personally believe Arenado will re-sign with Colorado and Rendon will either re-sign with Washington or retire, as he doesn't seem to like playing baseball at all. That's why it's crucial to me that we go hard after Machado. I personally believe that Machado to the Yankees will happen fairly quickly. I hope one of us is wrong. Edited October 10, 2018 by Jack Parkman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 2 hours ago, Jose Abreu said: I personally believe Arenado will re-sign with Colorado and Rendon will either re-sign with Washington or retire, as he doesn't seem to like playing baseball at all. That's why it's crucial to me that we go hard after Machado. Where have you seen this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turnin' two Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 (edited) 3 hours ago, Jack Parkman said: I personally believe that Machado to the Yankees will happen fairly quickly. I hope one of us is wrong. I know you can never quite rule them out, but Machado certainly doesn't fill a need for them with Andujar, Didi and Torres. Obviously Machado is an upgrade there, but is he upgrade enough to warrant spending 350 million dollars? Especially when the team clearly needs starting pitching? Maybe they sign him then trade Didi... who knows. Edited October 11, 2018 by turnin' two Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 (edited) 40 minutes ago, turnin' two said: I know you can never quite rule them out, but Machado certainly doesn't fill a need for them with Andujar, Didi and Torres. Obviously Machado is an upgrade there, but is he upgrade enough to warrant spending 350 million dollars? Especially when the team clearly needs starting pitching? Maybe they sign him then trade Didi... who knows. Andujar is a 1B/DH(he is horrible defensively at 3B) Didi is a FA after 2019. Machado makes a lot of sense for them. Edited October 11, 2018 by Jack Parkman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turnin' two Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 23 minutes ago, Jack Parkman said: Andujar is a 1B/DH(he is horrible defensively at 3B) Didi is a FA after 2019. Machado makes a lot of sense for them. He is also 23. I doubt they are willing to write him off completely as a DH. And there is no way they'd be able to resign Didi, I guess, is that the point you are making about him being a FA? Manny makes sense for every team. He is that good of a player. But the Yanks need him less than just about every other team due to their very young and talented infield. But as I said, you can never count out the Yankees when it comes to a big ticket free agent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 On 10/1/2018 at 7:57 AM, maggsmaggs said: I don't think there is any way to evaluate the Sox drafting and development and call it a success. And you and others are being pretty respectful when you say it when it really needs to be screamed to anyone defending the choices. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 10 minutes ago, turnin' two said: He is also 23. I doubt they are willing to write him off completely as a DH. And there is no way they'd be able to resign Didi, I guess, is that the point you are making about him being a FA? Manny makes sense for every team. He is that good of a player. But the Yanks need him less than just about every other team due to their very young and talented infield. But as I said, you can never count out the Yankees when it comes to a big ticket free agent. I wasn't saying that they would never sign Didi, I was saying if the choice was 1 year of Didi+Machado and then letting Didi walk, wouldn't you make that choice every day and twice on Sunday? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 14 hours ago, soxfan2014 said: Where have you seen this? I guess I don't have as much evidence as I remembered but here is a recent article that supports my post. Quote Rendon describes himself as a lover of the game who is simply “not a fan of everyone treating you different because you play a sport” and only “want to be normal.” (Indeed, he only took this interview to promote the Nats’ youth academy.) That’s not to say that Rendon isn’t interested in a lengthy career, but he clearly seems more concerned with the upbringing of a young family than maximizing earnings. He emphasized, too, that he’s not interested in turning over his professional direction to agent Scott Boras. What that all means for the future isn’t yet clear — from the team’s perspective, one official calls Rendon “an enigma” — but it’s undeniably relevant. Rendon is eligible for arbitration one final time this winter. edit: not sure why all that is crossed out and it won't let me change it, but it's all in the link Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turnin' two Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 22 hours ago, Jack Parkman said: I wasn't saying that they would never sign Didi, I was saying if the choice was 1 year of Didi+Machado and then letting Didi walk, wouldn't you make that choice every day and twice on Sunday? In a vacuum, yeah, of course. But what if it is Machado and 300 million more than it takes to keep Didi. What if that money could be used on Kershaw? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 Didi is having TJ surgery on his throwing arm and expected back at "some point during the season." https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2018/10/didi-gregorius-tommy-john-surgery-yankees.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted October 12, 2018 Author Share Posted October 12, 2018 22 minutes ago, soxfan2014 said: Didi is having TJ surgery on his throwing arm and expected back at "some point during the season." https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2018/10/didi-gregorius-tommy-john-surgery-yankees.html Damn you Don Cooper! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 (edited) Bob Nightengale, who “reported” in April that Machado will sign with the Yankees, is doubling down: A few months of Gregorious won’t impact the Yankees’ ~10 year offer to Machado, and it’s incredibly shortsighted to think otherwise. Not to mention Gleyber Torres is a shortstop. Edited October 12, 2018 by Jose Abreu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 4 minutes ago, Jose Abreu said: Bob Nightengale, who “reported” in April that Machado will sign with the Yankees, is doubling down: A few months of Gregorious won’t impact the Yankees’ ~10 year offer to Machado, and it’s incredibly shortsighted to think otherwise. Not to mention Gleyber Torres is a shortstop. I've read suggestions that Didi can come back as a DH next year. Or even just rotate the DH so Andujar, Machado, Didi, and Torres can stay fresh and get a day off without having to lose their bats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 Wow, Didi will be 29 to start the 2019 season. I had no idea he was that old already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 1 minute ago, soxfan2014 said: I've read suggestions that Didi can come back as a DH next year. Or even just rotate the DH so Andujar, Machado, Didi, and Torres can stay fresh and get a day off without having to lose their bats. The Yankees might sign him, that wasn’t my point. My point is that this injury has no effect on whether or not they sign him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 2 minutes ago, Jose Abreu said: The Yankees might sign him, that wasn’t my point. My point is that this injury has no effect on whether or not they sign him. Oh gotcha. In fact, it would seem to open up a slight "need" (if that's what you want to say) considering there's been discussion on what they would do to fit Machado into the mix. A guy spending possibly half a season on the DL (or more) would pave the way without needing to trade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted October 12, 2018 Author Share Posted October 12, 2018 At the very least, I hope we force the Yankees to add a lot of money to a Machado contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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