southsider2k5 Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 6 minutes ago, soxfan49 said: Eliminate the Yankees as a destination for Harper. Buster Olney says it's not going to happen. Harper didn't make sense for them after Stanton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveno89 Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 (edited) 2 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: Harper didn't make sense for them after Stanton. Harper to the Yankees just does not seem to make much sense. They want to pursue pitching, not add another huge money positional contract at this point. Edited November 7, 2018 by steveno89 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whisox05 Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 12 minutes ago, aeichhor said: Danny Boy has no clue and is just throwing things at the wall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 2 minutes ago, hi8is said: Danny Boy has no clue and is just throwing things at the wall. Not sure but he was all over the Orioles/Machado trade rumors last offseason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveno89 Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 3 minutes ago, hi8is said: Danny Boy has no clue and is just throwing things at the wall. I don't get why the Yankees would do with Andujar if they sign Machado? He's a perfectly good, young, cheap third base solution for them moving forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 (edited) 10 minutes ago, steveno89 said: I don't get why the Yankees would do with Andujar if they sign Machado? He's a perfectly good, young, cheap third base solution for them moving forward. Easy. Machado plays SS for a few months and then when Didi is back, there is a rotation in the DH spot. Also, Andujar is a butcher at 3B and can pick up a 1B glove as well. Let's just hope the Yankees buy Corbin and Happ and don't free up much payroll. Edit: off the top of my head, I can't think of who else the Yankees are really spending a lot on besides Stanton. I know CC is back at $8m and they re-structured Gardner's contract so he would be making less at $7.5m. Edit 2: oh yeah....Ellsbury. I bet Cashman will be working hard to move that some of that contract this off-season. Edited November 7, 2018 by soxfan2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 17 minutes ago, hi8is said: Danny Boy has no clue and is just throwing things at the wall. Yep, hence the "I think" in his Tweet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 1 hour ago, iWiN4PreP said: Yup, I think those 2 scenarios are the "aim" of the offseason for the White Sox. It offers a lot of potential now and for the future. I also think the W'Sox are serious about both of them, I mean, if you can get both of them you just do it and don't worry about the rest of the roster reconstruction. These 2 players are dynamic generational talents entering their primes and immediately turn the Sox into a sensation. My mouth waters just thinking about that. Just to be accurate they are not entering their primes. I don't see how you could expect either one to have better seasons than they have already put up the last five years. I'd say they are and have been in their primes with a reasonable expectation to continue those kinds of years for another 3-5 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 I mean in reality aren't those the two expected teams that should get him anyway? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iWiN4PreP Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 1 hour ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said: Just to be accurate they are not entering their primes. I don't see how you could expect either one to have better seasons than they have already put up the last five years. I'd say they are and have been in their primes with a reasonable expectation to continue those kinds of years for another 3-5 years. Huh? The primes for baseball players generally are the age 27-28 seasons. It's very reasonable that both Harper and Machado put up their best numbers in the next 2-3 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 Some pretty honest remarks by Buck. https://nypost.com/2018/11/07/the-behind-the-scenes-problems-and-on-field-brilliance-of-manny-machado/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, iWiN4PreP said: Huh? The primes for baseball players generally are the age 27-28 seasons. It's very reasonable that both Harper and Machado put up their best numbers in the next 2-3 years. I don't mean to contradict you. It's just it highly debatable when exactly a baseball players prime is and how long it lasts. If age 27 is truly entering their primes what would you call all their fantastic seasons before ? Harper had his best season by far at age 22. If that turns out to be his best season of his career wouldn't you then say that was his prime ? It's hard to imagine him having an even better year than he did that year. He has had 2 1.000+ OPS seasons age 22 and 24. If he is entering his prime now at 27 do you expect better seasons or seasons in line with his age 22 and 24 seasons ? These thing vary from player to player. There's been a lot of studies trying to pin down a prime but its all still pretty debatable. Many time a players prime turns out to be when they were healthiest. That isn't the same thing as when a player reaches a physical peak combined with the knowledge gained from experiencing MLB for a few years. Things also change dramatically changing leagues or even changing divisions. When you play the majority of your games in one league or division. the pitching is different every year, teams are better or worse. . Some players need an adjustment period . Others do not. Go look at that age 22 season he had when he was named MVP. 198 OPS + . No other seasons above a 156 OPS+ . I'd sure be happy with a 160+ but don't go expecting him to put up 198 OPS+ just because he's turning 27 and 28. Edited November 8, 2018 by CaliSoxFanViaSWside Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 1 hour ago, fathom said: Some pretty honest remarks by Buck. https://nypost.com/2018/11/07/the-behind-the-scenes-problems-and-on-field-brilliance-of-manny-machado/ I saw nothing too damaging. I don't really understand the last paragraph, It looks like more quotes by Showalter but then it has sections of it in brackets. Is that the writer inserting his own translation to gaps that Showalter didnt fill in ? Seems weird to me that if it's a direct quote why use the brackets ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrankinSox Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 For what it's worth (not much), Bob Nightengale is guaranteeing that Harper signs with the Phillies. https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/mlb/columnist/bob-nightengale/2018/11/07/bryce-harper-phillies-free-agent-contract/1924622002/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whisox05 Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 Just now, KrankinSox said: For what it's worth (not much), Bob Nightengale is guaranteeing that Harper signs with the Phillies. https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/mlb/columnist/bob-nightengale/2018/11/07/bryce-harper-phillies-free-agent-contract/1924622002/ It's Bob lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 The Sox weren't even mentioned in that article. Nightengale has been the Sox mouthpiece for a long time. I think Bob is excluding them on purpose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrankinSox Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 6 minutes ago, aeichhor said: It's Bob lol Yep, that's why I said it's not worth much haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 Biggest threat for Manny has always been Yanks, as that’s supposedly been his preferred team. I wonder if they won’t trade someone like Andujar + for Kluber and then sign Manny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 4 hours ago, steveno89 said: I don't get why the Yankees would do with Andujar if they sign Machado? He's a perfectly good, young, cheap third base solution for them moving forward. They'd move Andujar to 1B/DH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsoxhurt35 Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 0% chance Harper signs with the White Sox. It’s Machado or bust for Hahn. I’d love Harper but I just don’t see him signing with the Sox. I do love the aggressiveness Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonofaRoache Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 Yankees get Machado Phillies get Harper Sox get leftover scraps, but can say they tried to get the big fish. The Bulls have been doing this since Jordan left. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T R U Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 Yeah sorry for being the wet blanket here but 6 yrs 68 million. That’s the largest contract the White Sox have EVER given a player. I will say 0.0 % chance they sign either of these guys much less the insanity talk of both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsox Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 A-Rod said yesterday he wouldn't be surprised if Harper gets $40 MM per. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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