Dam8610 Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 29 minutes ago, oldsox said: A-Rod said yesterday he wouldn't be surprised if Harper gets $40 MM per. I'd be surprised if the team that gives him that doesn't regret it. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vote4Pedro Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 On 11/5/2018 at 9:15 PM, Jerksticks said: Oh yes you are. We all are. You are here on this message board after one of the most disappointing seasons in Sox history, not because you want to talk about the prospects, but because the payroll is so low that for the first time this shit might be interesting. So sit down over here next to me and prepare to be disappointed by the Sox more than you ever have before. As much as I would like to disagree with your comment, I am still following closely guarded trying not to get the hopes up ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 1 minute ago, DH in the NL said: These “pitches” are lame as f*ck. Throw $350 million at him and you don’t need a “pitch.” It works pretty well in college basketball and football recruiting. Of course so does throwing money at the correct people. You never know. These guys don't know much about the team or the city. This kind of stuff gives them some fluff to absorb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 31 minutes ago, Sockin said: Um this is apparently at the United Center? Are the Sox meeting with Harper today?! https://twitter.com/TJDoyle25/status/1060560355338919936 Hmmmm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 1 minute ago, DH in the NL said: These “pitches” are lame as f*ck. Throw $350 million at him and you don’t need a “pitch.” Just now, Tony said: Every team does this. Whether you think its lame or not, it would be stupid as hell for the Sox to not put their best foot forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 I still don't think the Sox are getting either one of these guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 2 minutes ago, Chisoxfn said: I still don't think the Sox are getting either one of these guys. That’s obviously the safest bet ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominikk85 Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 Harper already turned down 300, I think he will probably get 400 in the end, or alternatively 300 with 3 opt outs starting after 2 years like heyward got. I think machado also will get 300, no team is going to commit 700m to both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 (edited) On 11/7/2018 at 11:39 AM, Jose Abreu said: I love the people who come in this thread with the "I'm smarter than all of you who have actually been paying attention to what the Sox have been doing" approach and then end up saying something that just makes them sound ridiculous If you thought I actually meant they have to double the next offer, then you're crazy. I also like how you act like I don't pay attention to the Sox when I have 32,000 or so posts on this board. I'm being realistic. Bryce Harper isn't coming to the South Side of Chicago to win 70 games a year during his prime. Edited November 9, 2018 by Steve9347 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 If there is anything Steve is known for, it's accurate predictions. 3 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 11 minutes ago, bmags said: If there is anything Steve is known for, it's accurate predictions. END THE FIGHT!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 4 hours ago, bmags said: If there is anything Steve is known for, it's accurate predictions. LMFAO! POTY. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panerista Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 On 11/7/2018 at 9:59 PM, Dam8610 said: I'd be surprised if the team that gives him that doesn't regret it. for a small market team or a high potential team like the White Sox, they really won't regret it 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted November 10, 2018 Author Share Posted November 10, 2018 Just now, AustinIllini said: for a small market team or a high potential team like the White Sox, they really won't regret it I agree. Say the Sox sign Harper, 10/375. Say that for that entire contract, Harper doesn't opt out and slashes .250/.350/.500. Probably would be underwhelming, but .850 OPS production from a left-handed hitter is still good. Is it $37.5 million AAV good? No, it isn't, and that's why having a marketable player, perhaps the marketable player of baseball, is so important for a team like the White Sox, who play second fiddle to another organization just a few miles north. I don't have enough data at my disposal, nor do I have proper knowledge of each and every factor that Harper would affect, but I would be willing to guess that what we'd "lose" in overpaying for the above production, we would more than gain (from an economic perspective) in increased exposure leading to higher attendance, ratings, jersey sales, and so on. If I were Jerry, I would even consider offering him something crazy like 12/460. The effect such a signing would have on our team would be absolutely crucial from an economic standpoint, and I'm sure the FO realizes this. He doesn't even need to be good. The bright side is that he probably will be great, and better than the slash line outlined above. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxFanMike Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 ^^^ I agree with this. Although 400 million or whatever amount they would sign him for is a ridiculous sum of money, he would be well worth the investment. Jersey sales, ticket packages, concessions, etc would all increase dramatically if they signed him. Not to mention the marketing opportunities. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 10 hours ago, bmags said: If there is anything Steve is known for, it's accurate predictions. Now I really think the Sox sign one of them ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsoxhurt35 Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 Old tales exposed will be all over you Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted November 10, 2018 Author Share Posted November 10, 2018 Sun-Times: White Sox should choose Bryce Harper over Manny Machado for their fantasy team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 6 hours ago, Whitesox27 said: ^^^ I agree with this. Although 400 million or whatever amount they would sign him for is a ridiculous sum of money, he would be well worth the investment. Jersey sales, ticket packages, concessions, etc would all increase dramatically if they signed him. Not to mention the marketing opportunities. eh, I'm sure they're already takingall those things into account, those arent separate things that only happen because you paid him 400 million vs 350 million Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panerista Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 (edited) On 11/7/2018 at 9:21 PM, SonofaRoache said: Yankees get Machado Phillies get Harper Sox get leftover scraps, but can say they tried to get the big fish. The Bulls have been doing this since Jordan left. Change your username, troll Or at least change your Av to a Cubs logo or something so we know where you stand. Edited November 10, 2018 by AustinIllini Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonofaRoache Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 7 minutes ago, AustinIllini said: Change your username, troll Or at least change your Av to a Cubs logo or something so we know where you stand. No and no. If you actually read my posts instead of one mostly in jest you'd know where I'd stand. But you cannot read, so I wouldn't expect that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panerista Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 1 minute ago, SonofaRoache said: No and no. If you actually read my posts instead of one mostly in jest you'd know where I'd stand. But you cannot read, so I wouldn't expect that. Your username highlights the bottom of our White Sox lifetimes. You're a real piece of work. And don't try to play off pessimism as jest. It's not funny here. We have enough of that crap on this board. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonofaRoache Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 (edited) 7 hours ago, Real said: eh, I'm sure they're already takingall those things into account, those arent separate things that only happen because you paid him 400 million vs 350 million Again we need to stop focusing on the total amount of the contract as opt outs will deem that number meaningless. I agree the difference in salary to us would be marginal, and front loading a contract makes things much easier for us. As well as gives Harper or Manny incentive to opt out and redo. Edited November 10, 2018 by SonofaRoache Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwolf68 Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 (edited) These two guys will make more money than most countries in the common market. Do we have a chance? And still if we signed one, how close are we given we have little pitching. Are they willing to have a crap 2019, waiting for 2020 when Cease, Dunning, Eloy are ready and Kopech is healthy? Just dunno Edited November 12, 2018 by kwolf68 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whisox05 Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 25 minutes ago, kwolf68 said: These two guys will make more money than most countries in the common market. Do we have a chance? And still if we signed one, how close are we given we have little pitching. Are they willing to have a crap 2019, waiting for 2020 when Cease, Dunning, Eloy are ready and Kopech is healthy? Just dunno Hahn has already said they are going to get pitching. Need innings for starters and bullpen help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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