pettie4sox Posted November 7, 2018 Author Share Posted November 7, 2018 Rauner had to chance to show his Republican prowess and failed miserably. He tried to come in and swing his junk around and got b**** slapped backed to Bangkok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 (edited) The headline story will be the Senate and FL/GA for the GOP. The even bigger story for DEMS is the rejection of Trumpism across the Midwest and Rust Belt. Those 77,000 votes in 2016 are quickly evaporating. PA is a massacre, Wisconsin might be one as well (Ryan will keep his seat intact because the Dems ran someone with too much baggage against his successor)...Michigan and Iowa are coming back home into the Democratic column after flirting with Trump and rejecting Clinton (equal doses of both). Ohio is going to be another huge battleground, looks to be going GOP again for governor, following up Kasich's more moderating tone. Trump had a great opening these last two years to move towards the middle and wipe out liberalism...and that chance is now blown. With a strong economy, if he had fixed the Obamacare loophole/donut and balanced the tax cut more evenly between the rich/corporations and middle class...and not started an unnecessary trade war with China (the tariffs were a bad strategy, all he needed to do was build a coalition with Europe and Japan/South Korea/India and they could have extracted even bigger concessions than what we'll receive eventually). You would never know (from the following map) that America has never been more divided...at least since the 1960's/Watergate or the Civil War. Edited November 7, 2018 by caulfield12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 They can try and spin it however they like, but losing the House is a really really bad case scenario for Trump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 Overall results tracking predictions, some surprises here and there though. Shocked with Florida gov, even more shocked with Kansas wtf Casten, Underwood winning in Illinois, surprise in IL-13 too. I was in a bad place when 538's house chances dropped to 35% around 8pm for a little bit. We're seeing the big difference in how our government is structured. Haven't had a house-Senate divergence since 1984. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 3 minutes ago, Soxbadger said: They can try and spin it however they like, but losing the House is a really really bad case scenario for Trump. Dems already saying they're requesting the tax returns Things are gonna be wild for the next couple of years. My gut tells me that unless we get a recession within two years, Trump will win another four. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pettie4sox Posted November 7, 2018 Author Share Posted November 7, 2018 2 minutes ago, StrangeSox said: Dems already saying they're requesting the tax returns Things are gonna be wild for the next couple of years. My gut tells me that unless we get a recession within two years, Trump will win another four. How is Trump going to win without the rust belt states he won in 2016? If they send Hillary out there, yes that's another four. A decent candidate will destroy him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 Also congrats @The Beast for helping with Casten, @Reddy your race looks solid too 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 3 minutes ago, pettie4sox said: How is Trump going to win without the rust belt states he won in 2016? If they send Hillary out there, yes that's another four. A decent candidate will destroy him. It's her turn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pettie4sox Posted November 7, 2018 Author Share Posted November 7, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, StrangeSox said: It's her turn She needs to stay far away. I blame her for Trump. Edited November 7, 2018 by pettie4sox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 50 minutes ago, pettie4sox said: Well maybe Rauner shouldn't have sucked as a governor? EDIT: Rated R to rated PG Agreed that hurt him, but even if he was "good " at his job, he had no chance against JB and his deep pockets and connections. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 4 minutes ago, StrangeSox said: It's her turn Is that a serious thought? Would the people actually vote for her in a primary again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 Damn it, tax returns are as big of a waste of time as emails. Conduct some real Russia investigations instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pettie4sox Posted November 7, 2018 Author Share Posted November 7, 2018 1 minute ago, LittleHurt05 said: Agreed that hurt him, but even if he was "good " at his job, he had no chance against JB and his deep pockets and connections. Dude, if he was a good governor or had a plan, he could have beat JB. JB was a loser but Rauner was a bigger loser. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pettie4sox Posted November 7, 2018 Author Share Posted November 7, 2018 Just now, southsider2k5 said: Damn it, tax returns are as big of a waste of time as emails. Conduct some real Russia investigations instead. Tax returns could find the Russians though ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 2 minutes ago, LittleHurt05 said: Agreed that hurt him, but even if he was "good " at his job, he had no chance against JB and his deep pockets and connections. Rauner was really bad. But what also hurt him is how disliked Trump is in the Chicago area. Rauner was a dead man walking to send a point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 1 minute ago, southsider2k5 said: Damn it, tax returns are as big of a waste of time as emails. Conduct some real Russia investigations instead. Yeah agreed on tax returns. But I think some fun could be had looking into Trump Hotel in DC and some other areas where maybe Trump has been making soft money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pettie4sox Posted November 7, 2018 Author Share Posted November 7, 2018 Just now, Soxbadger said: Rauner was really bad. But what also hurt him is how disliked Trump is in the Chicago area. Rauner was a dead man walking to send a point. Trump was always talking shit about Chicago too. Rauner should have told him to kiss his ass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 6 minutes ago, LittleHurt05 said: Is that a serious thought? Would the people actually vote for her in a primary again? I refuse to have any hope that she will not run and that Trump will not win in 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pettie4sox Posted November 7, 2018 Author Share Posted November 7, 2018 1 minute ago, StrangeSox said: I refuse to have any hope that she will not run and that Trump will not win in 2020 It's depressing thinking about her running again and ruining America. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 (edited) Democrats will end up with several million more votes for Senate seats tonight but still lose 3 seats. Edited November 7, 2018 by StrangeSox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Beast Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 44 minutes ago, StrangeSox said: Also congrats @The Beast for helping with Casten, @Reddy your race looks solid too Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Beast Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 33 minutes ago, StrangeSox said: I refuse to have any hope that she will not run and that Trump will not win in 2020 I hope she doesn’t run again, there’s no point. Put Biden, Harris or my pipe dream of Kasich and Hickenlooper our there. Realistically though I bet an aged Trump gets a second term unless we face a recession or the middle class doesn’t see the value in him like they did in 2016. Voters might have a different perspective if Clinton isn’t around though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 1 hour ago, LittleHurt05 said: Agreed that hurt him, but even if he was "good " at his job, he had no chance against JB and his deep pockets and connections. I don’t think this is true. Rainer has an easy playbook to follow on Charlie Baker and other NE governors, he tried to be Scott walker except he had no legislature. He was not a good politician and accomplished nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 (edited) Looks like Scott Walker has 9 Lives. That race is going to go down to the middle of the morning, by the looks of it. 3000-ish vote spread with 6.7% still left to report (which typically would favor the Dems.) Edited November 7, 2018 by caulfield12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 Also, there's NO WAY IN HE-L-L Hillary Clinton is going to run again, let alone win the nomination. The Me-Too movement and her husband's past transgressions (look at the trend of white/educated women voting DEM this election, it's almost 2 to 1) make this a complete non-starter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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