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he gone. Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 It annoys me that the Sox didn't strike at $6-7mm on Billy Hamilton. Obviously there's so much more to come and maybe bigger moves based on this whole Harper/Machado thing... but Engel/Hamilton comparison is an easy one. Seems like a nice calculated risk to take on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 1 minute ago, BrianAnderson said: It annoys me that the Sox didn't strike at $6-7mm on Billy Hamilton. Obviously there's so much more to come and maybe bigger moves based on this whole Harper/Machado thing... but Engel/Hamilton comparison is an easy one. Seems like a nice calculated risk to take on. I don’t get the Hamilton love. He’s a slightly better version of Adam Engel. I’d much rather use the $5M to $7M on a substantial upgrade or a high-end flip candidate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turnin' two Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 2 minutes ago, BrianAnderson said: It annoys me that the Sox didn't strike at $6-7mm on Billy Hamilton. Obviously there's so much more to come and maybe bigger moves based on this whole Harper/Machado thing... but Engel/Hamilton comparison is an easy one. Seems like a nice calculated risk to take on. I don't know. I honestly don't see much difference between the two. Obviously Hamilton swipes more bags, but I think Engel has the speed to do it, he just needs to be turned loose on the bases. Engel hit .235 with a .614 OPS (and Engel hit .260 with a .668 OPS in the 2nd half). Hamilton hit .236 with a .626 OPS ( no real difference in his halves). That difference is worth the 6 million in pay I wouldn't think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turnin' two Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 5 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: I don’t get the Hamilton love. He’s a slightly better version of Adam Engel. I’d much rather use the $5M to $7M on a substantial upgrade or a high-end flip candidate. Hahah! Beat me to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
he gone. Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 Yes and no... Engel probably tops out at 30sb over a full season and slightly worse with the bat. Hamilton gives you 40-60sb and has that former top pick allure that generally means nothing, but would be worth giving a spin. You're right, not much different, but I'd say Hamilton has a 25% more likelihood to make a difference on a future contending sox team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
he gone. Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 we're all in basically the same agreement I guess. it's not a huge deal, but would rather see Hamilton than engel out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 3 minutes ago, BrianAnderson said: we're all in basically the same agreement I guess. it's not a huge deal, but would rather see Hamilton than engel out there. The devil you don't know is better than the one you do? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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he gone. Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 45 minutes ago, Sleepy Harold said: it will be interesting as time goes on to see how Cleveland balances this all out. they have a really nice core, but like Oakland, tb, Minnesota of the past ... they'll have to balance it all perfectly to maintain relevancy. Oakland were the kings of this in 2000's. TB has done a good job over the past decade. for our sake -- I personally hope cle doesn't do well in their endeavors but outside of that would like to see the small team survive. Personally a Verdugo return to me would be strong. He'd slot right in, probably 1 or 2 in the order as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 Pretty boring start to the day... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 (edited) 3 minutes ago, ChiSox59 said: Pretty boring start to the day... Personally, I figured it would be. Doesn't seem like much happens day 1 until maybe at night. Laying the groundwork for deals that could be completed tomorrow, Wednesday or Thursday. Edited December 10, 2018 by soxfan2014 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ChiSox59 Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 4 minutes ago, Sleepy Harold said: This one stings for me. Would have been a great fit for the back of our rotation. For $5.75M...I mean c'mon... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Whisox05 Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 Just now, aeichhor said: This is why hahn has said to go after players now cause you don't know who will become available. Machado seems like a must if rookies lock up arenado Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bschmaranz Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 1 hour ago, aeichhor said: What about a $350 million deal? Cuz that's what it's gonna take. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ChiSox59 Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 Anyone think we see any league wide action tonight? Only 6pm in Vegas...quiet day with Billy Hamilton signing as the most notable news. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turnin' two Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 2 hours ago, bschmaranz said: What about a $350 million deal? Cuz that's what it's gonna take. I wouldn't think so. Arenado will play next season at 28, and 29 as his first free agent season, as opposed to 26. He will command fewer years than Harper/Machado. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 So Mets might be in on Ramos, while Dodgers are Realmuto or bust. The quietness surrounding Grandal is interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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