Sleepy Harold Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 James Shields come on back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Baron said: James Shields come on back If we decide not to compete in 2019, why not? We need innings eaters. One year, 4 million with incentives. He's probably worth that just as a good influence on the staff. Edited December 5, 2018 by greg775 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 7 minutes ago, Baron said: James Shields come on back I hope this is some sort of sick joke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 11 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: I hope this is some sort of sick joke. Yes and no. Yes because I'm being a tad bit sarcastic and I think Hahn strikes out big in free agency. But really I'd prefer just innings eaters at this point. But I think we're a ways away from paying that kind of money for a free agent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 1 minute ago, Baron said: Yes and no. Yes because I'm being a tad bit sarcastic and I think Hahn strikes out big in free agency. But really I'd prefer just innings eaters at this point. But I think we're a ways away from paying that kind of money for a free agent. Even if we decide to settle for one year deals, I hope to god we add someone with some level of upside. I’d be enraged if we wasted another 200 innings on James fucking Shields. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 (edited) The odds are stacked against starting pitchers with 2 TJ surgeries...especially with max velocity styles. I tried to find it, but there aren’t more than a handful of starters who have thrown 250 or more total innings after a second surgery. Something like 2 or 3. They would be better off finding a solid 2/3 guy with a repeatable delivery or going all-in on someone like Cole when the timing is better. I get the point, would you rather have two Eeovaldi’s or one Corbin, for example...spread out your risk...but it’s those $45-60 million contracts that all added up over the last decade to hamstring the club financially. If we’re going to fail, at least do it swinging for the fences on the caliber of players who are not lightning in a bottle, everything has to go exactly right...maybe if we didn’t have so many young pitchers already in the “high risk” category it would be a different story, or if we could easily afford an eventual $160+ million payroll. Edited December 5, 2018 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 Sounds like Eovaldi is going to the Red Sox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Dam8610 Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 Just now, aeichhor said: At that price, best of luck to he and the Red Sox. May he cost them Chris Sale. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 Just to put this in perspective, Eovaldi's deal for $68 million/4 years (proposed) would be essentially a tie with Abreu's original deal and just a tick ahead of John Danks' 5 year, $65 million contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Harold Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Harold Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 Can scratch one name off the list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsox Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 On 12/12/2018 at 10:16 AM, Sleepy Harold said: Can scratch one name off the list. Here's another name you can scratch off the list of pitchers: Michael Ynoa, the same guy our GM included in the Samardzija trade. Hahn went so far as to say he would not have made that trade without Ynoa. KC just signed him to minor league deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 Apparently Hahn mentioned to our old friend Bruce Levine that they’d like to add another starting pitcher and hinted that right now Banuelos could be the favorite for the #5 spot. Assuming they want to address this via free agency, below are the highest ranked starters per MLBTradeRumors: 04) Keuchel - 4/$82K (QO) 27) Gonzalez - 2/$24M 39) Holland - 2/$15M 42) Miley - 2/$12M 49) Santana - 1/$6M 50) Pomeranz - 1/$6M Any of these guys of interest? I think Pomeranz on a cheap one-year deal makes a ton of sense regardless of what we do with the whales. If we do add a whale (or two), I might be able to convince myself to add Gio instead, even if it requires a two year commitment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bschmaranz Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 5 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: Apparently Hahn mentioned to our old friend Bruce Levine that they’d like to add another starting pitcher and hinted that right now Banuelos could be the favorite for the #5 spot. Assuming they want to address this via free agency, below are the highest ranked starters per MLBTradeRumors: 04) Keuchel - 4/$82K (QO) 27) Gonzalez - 2/$24M 39) Holland - 2/$15M 42) Miley - 2/$12M 49) Santana - 1/$6M 50) Pomeranz - 1/$6M Any of these guys of interest? I think Pomeranz on a cheap one-year deal makes a ton of sense regardless of what we do with the whales. If we do add a whale (or two), I might be able to convince myself to add Gio instead, even if it requires a two year commitment. Gio, Miley, or Pomeranz, please and thank you. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 (edited) Pomeranz has made too much sense for too long. Idk what Hahn is waiting for. Shelby Miller would have been a nice thought. I'm not really interested in anyone else other than Gio Gonzalez or Clay Buchholz. Edited January 12, 2019 by Jack Parkman 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iWiN4PreP Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 I keep debating wanting Keuchel and not wanting him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bschmaranz Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 7 minutes ago, iWiN4PreP said: I keep debating wanting Keuchel and not wanting him. If we were closer to competing now I'd be down. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 1 hour ago, Chicago White Sox said: 04) Keuchel - 4/$82K (QO) 27) Gonzalez - 2/$24M 39) Holland - 2/$15M 42) Miley - 2/$12M 49) Santana - 1/$6M 50) Pomeranz - 1/$6M In that list, I would go Miley or Pomeranz. Keuchal perhaps at 25% off of that price." I would buy puts on Marwin Gonzalez, if such things were available. And Holland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 10 minutes ago, GreenSox said: In that list, I would go Miley or Pomeranz. Keuchal perhaps at 25% off of that price." I would buy puts on Marwin Gonzalez, if such things were available. And Holland Surprised you want to sign the dreaded vets instead of rolling with Banuelos, Covey and Stephens for the 5 spot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sockin Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 1 hour ago, iWiN4PreP said: I keep debating wanting Keuchel and not wanting him. Unless they get a good deal on him which is unlikely, I'd rather save the money to make a run at one of the big guys next offseason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron883 Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 1 minute ago, ChiSox59 said: Surprised you want to sign the dreaded vets instead of rolling with Banuelos, Covey and Stephens for the 5 spot. Covey has so much movement on that 93-94 mph two seamer or whatever it is when he is on. He can look great with that thing. It looks like trash the majority of the time though. Hopefully he can be a more effective bullpen piece. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 1 minute ago, ron883 said: Covey has so much movement on that 93-94 mph two seamer or whatever it is when he is on. He can look great with that thing. It looks like trash the majority of the time though. Hopefully he can be a more effective bullpen piece. I think Covey could be fine as a long man/spot starter. I think that is where he has to carve out his niche in the bigs, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 (edited) 8 minutes ago, ChiSox59 said: Surprised you want to sign the dreaded vets instead of rolling with Banuelos, Covey and Stephens for the 5 spot. It's called declining vets, such as 33 year old with .678 OPS. At least that one wasn't traded for. Or paying career year price. Still, it is a lot better signing them, declining or otherwise, than trading young players for them. Re the pitchers, that's Gio ...he'd be okay but that price is high. Edited January 12, 2019 by GreenSox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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