Baron Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 Just now, fathom said: That's why this is such a hard thing for Hahn to pull off. If Harper/Machado don't sign until January, how does he make the necessary moves before that? He can't wait until January to try and sign the other pieces that would make those guys want to come here. Right that's what seems to be happening. How in the name of Zeus's butthole is Hahn going to convince Harper to join probably a 70 win team next year without massively overpaying to the point where it's an easy choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 1 minute ago, Jose Abreu said: I'd be pissed if I were a Phillies fan. The owner pretty much flat out lied to them, unless they did outbid the Nats and Corbin declined anyway I wouldn't be. $24M AAV is way to much for Corbin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 The Sox should just outbid everyone for Harper. Problem solved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 1 minute ago, Whitesox27 said: The Sox should just outbid everyone for Harper. Problem solved. 15 year, 29 million dollars a year. That way Gregor is right and everyone wins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 1 minute ago, Whitesox27 said: The Sox should just outbid everyone for Harper. Problem solved. Well yeah. That's what they have to do be willing to do to have a shot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 1 minute ago, ChiSox59 said: I wouldn't be. $24M AAV is way to much for Corbin. Technically it's $23.3 million, and if you're not prepared to pay prices like this then there's no one on the free agent market you really will actually want. This is fair value for him. Frankly it's less AAV than I thought he'd get. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 1 minute ago, fathom said: 15 year, 29 million dollars a year. That way Gregor is right and everyone wins. I'd honestly be perfectly fine with that. If the Sox win a World Series with him on the team that contract is a success no matter what. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 2 minutes ago, Balta1701 said: Technically it's $23.3 million, and if you're not prepared to pay prices like this then there's no one on the free agent market you really will actually want. This is fair value for him. Frankly it's less AAV than I thought he'd get. You'd be losing your mind if the Sox paid Corbin $140M. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 Just now, ChiSox59 said: You'd be losing your mind if the Sox paid Corbin $140M. I know I would. That is going to be a terrible contract in a very short amount of time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 Just now, ChiSox59 said: You'd be losing your mind if the Sox paid Corbin $140M. Well yeah, a move that is the right move for a team that has been in the wild card race and playoffs in recent years would be a bad move for a rebuilding team with a ton of young pitching on the way up over the next 2-3 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 Lol...Bruce Lavine is somehow breaking there is no opt-out in the deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 If the Yankees had signed Corbin at this price, they’d have been out on Machado. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 2 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: I know I would. That is going to be a terrible contract in a very short amount of time. As would I. But now we get to sit here and listen to Balta tell us how great of a move it is and how its market because the Sox didn't do it. Corbin is a good not great pitcher coming off a career. He may be worth that contract for 2 seasons. It will be a terrible contract before too long, and with all the sliders Corbin throws, he is a huge injury risk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 Just now, Eminor3rd said: If the Yankees had signed Corbin at this price, they’d have been out on Machado. No they wouldn't have been. They'd have been out if they were unwilling to pay the luxury tax, but they've clearly said they will pay it if they want to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 That's alot of chedda. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 I do wonder what the Sox offered, if they even did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 1 minute ago, ChiSox59 said: As would I. But now we get to sit here and listen to Balta tell us how great of a move it is and how its market because the Sox didn't do it. Corbin is a good not great pitcher coming off a career. He may be worth that contract for 2 seasons. It will be a terrible contract before too long, and with all the sliders Corbin throws, he is a huge injury risk. Is it really impossible to understand that a fair market value contract given by one team would be a much worse deal for a team with a different roster? Machado at $30 million a year would be a great buy for us. That would be a pretty terrible contract for the Astros. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 1 minute ago, ChiSox59 said: I do wonder what the Sox offered, if they even did. 4 years, 54 million with a presentation showing his jersey at the United Center 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 The Nats have been really good at identifying FA talent so part of me now thinks Corbin may end up succeeding. Also, some of you can not seem to handle anyone not baghdad bobbing that the white sox will sign every free agent and are the perfect destination. Chill out. Fathom can point out obvious issues, and Balta can also point out that the top pitcher in the FA class getting a deal slightly over last years class is about expected without attributing it to personality defects. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 This makes sense: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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thxfrthmmrs Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 44 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: Because it shows they have their limits. The more likely scenario is they have limits set on an SP, so they could go after one of Harper and Machado. If Phillies' plan was to go after an SP and OF/3B, shouldn't losing the top tier SP give them money to still go after the 2nd tier SP and more money for Harper and Machado? Also, if Corbin went for $140 M, you could pretty much bump up any Harper/Machado projection by about 5%-10%. This is bad news for Sox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 Is it $126 or $140mil? Because everything I see says $140, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 1 minute ago, Soxbadger said: Is it $126 or $140mil? Because everything I see says $140, $140, forgot to edit again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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