Wanne Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 8 minutes ago, beautox said: seems steep for one year of Goldschmidt. When you factor in Kelly was recently rated #55, weaver's value and youngs and a top 100 pick roughly worth 2.2fWAR @ roughly 9 million it seems about right if you think Goldschmidt + the pick he will likely receive for not taking the QO is about 35ish million in surplus value. Kelly, Weaver, Young and Mr 2.2fWAR Pick wasn't going to help the Cards compete this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beautox Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 5 minutes ago, Wanne said: Kelly, Weaver, Young and Mr 2.2fWAR Pick wasn't going to help the Cards compete this season. I don't disagree; in a vacuum its an overpay by 8-10M. Considering the cards can move Carpenter back to 3B and have moved up their pick if Goldy walks and get a year to evaluate and offer an extension its fine, but its still an overpay, they need to compete with the cubs and brewers and it makes sense they've got a back log of catching and pitching with reyes coming back young is likely a utility guy and a mid late draft pick for '19 does nothing for them this season, so i get it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 With Carp and Molina as two of their main guys, their window is now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Wanne Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 41 minutes ago, beautox said: I don't disagree; in a vacuum its an overpay by 8-10M. Considering the cards can move Carpenter back to 3B and have moved up their pick if Goldy walks and get a year to evaluate and offer an extension its fine, but its still an overpay, they need to compete with the cubs and brewers and it makes sense they've got a back log of catching and pitching with reyes coming back young is likely a utility guy and a mid late draft pick for '19 does nothing for them this season, so i get it. I don't buy it's an overpay. I'm not one to put a salary number on a player that doesn't exist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beautox Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 8 minutes ago, Wanne said: I don't buy it's an overpay. I'm not one to put a salary number on a player that doesn't exist. well others have, and it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 1 hour ago, Jose Abreu said: Leury or Yolmer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 Given the battle between the Cubs and Brewers, easy to forget the Cards won 88 games last year. This puts them right in contender discussion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 11 minutes ago, caulfield12 said: Leury or Yolmer? Descalso is my guess Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 1 hour ago, fathom said: Descalso is my guess Familiarity breeds contempt? Utility infielders are not quite like back-up QB's, although McEwing was incredibly popular in StL during his playing days, just like Jose Oquendo before him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrathofhahn Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 Seems like a good time to move Abreu. Nice return for the Diamondbacks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarava Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 12 hours ago, GreenSox said: Mostly stunted prospects to Az..but we'll see. I agree with this. I don't like this from Arizona's side. And for St. Louis - it will depend on if they can re-sign him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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