southsider2k5 Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 https://www.baseballamerica.com/stories/2018-rule-5-draft-preview-v-10/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsox Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 Last I checked, Sox were at 37 roster spots. If so, why wouldn't we protect Zach Thompson? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenericUserName Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 53 minutes ago, oldsox said: Last I checked, Sox were at 37 roster spots. If so, why wouldn't we protect Zach Thompson? The date to add people to the 40 has passed. At the date of the deadline we still had Avi and Davidson on the roster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsox Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 Thanks, that's what I suspected. It just seems to me, that if they non-tender those guys at same time, they should know they can protect Thompson by adding him then. Unless, of course, they just don't think he is good enough. We'll see. I just think some team will select Thompson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 2 hours ago, oldsox said: Last I checked, Sox were at 37 roster spots. If so, why wouldn't we protect Zach Thompson? Same issue that impacted Clarkin. If we decide we need his roster spot later and try to slip him through waivers, all it takes is a team to commit a 40 man roster spot to keep him. Right now, someone has to commit a 25 man roster for the entire season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 Anyone have any guys they'd love to take in the draft? Also how does the MiLB rule 5 work? That's how we got Mercedes if I remember correctly? How are you eligible for that draft? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenericUserName Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 35 minutes ago, cjgalloway said: Anyone have any guys they'd love to take in the draft? Also how does the MiLB rule 5 work? That's how we got Mercedes if I remember correctly? How are you eligible for that draft? The MiLB portion works the same as the major league portion, but with a AAA phase and a AA phase. If a player is eligible for the rule 5, then they are eligible for all phases. Just like how players on the 40 man are protected from the major league portion (and thus also the minor league portion), players on the AAA roster are protected from the AAA and AA phases of the minor league draft and likewise with players on the AA roster being protected from the AA phase of the draft. So whatever roster you are on, you are protected from that phase of the draft and any below it (ML, then AAA, then AA). However, unlike the major league portion of the draft, players can be moved more freely between the minor league rosters. Because of this, teams will usually put their best rule 5 eligible players (that aren't on the 40 man) on the AAA roster before the draft so that the only way a team can take them would be to take them in the major league portion of the draft. The more free movement also allows teams to move players that they select in the draft between levels without having to return the player to the original team as they would if they took a ML rule 5 drafted player off their roster. This was the case with us last year where we selected Mercedes in the AAA portion of the draft but then sent him to Winston-Salem. Because of this easier movement, it is even more important to protect eligible players by putting them on the AAA or AA teams before the draft. However, you won't see much coverage about this movement because it really doesn't mean anything besides protecting the player and more than likely the player will be moved back down to where the team thinks is appropriate right after the draft. So overall, the minor league portion of the draft is less used because it is easier to protect players and thus fewer prospects with any real potential are left unprotected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 6 hours ago, GenericUserName said: The MiLB portion works the same as the major league portion, but with a AAA phase and a AA phase. If a player is eligible for the rule 5, then they are eligible for all phases. Just like how players on the 40 man are protected from the major league portion (and thus also the minor league portion), players on the AAA roster are protected from the AAA and AA phases of the minor league draft and likewise with players on the AA roster being protected from the AA phase of the draft. So whatever roster you are on, you are protected from that phase of the draft and any below it (ML, then AAA, then AA). However, unlike the major league portion of the draft, players can be moved more freely between the minor league rosters. Because of this, teams will usually put their best rule 5 eligible players (that aren't on the 40 man) on the AAA roster before the draft so that the only way a team can take them would be to take them in the major league portion of the draft. The more free movement also allows teams to move players that they select in the draft between levels without having to return the player to the original team as they would if they took a ML rule 5 drafted player off their roster. This was the case with us last year where we selected Mercedes in the AAA portion of the draft but then sent him to Winston-Salem. Because of this easier movement, it is even more important to protect eligible players by putting them on the AAA or AA teams before the draft. However, you won't see much coverage about this movement because it really doesn't mean anything besides protecting the player and more than likely the player will be moved back down to where the team thinks is appropriate right after the draft. So overall, the minor league portion of the draft is less used because it is easier to protect players and thus fewer prospects with any real potential are left unprotected. This is a very good description. One small clarification though - it is not the AAA roster, which has a limit of 25, that gets protection. It is the AAA "Reserve List", which is a different list than the roster and has a capacity of 38 players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 Also by the way, here is the FutureSox Rule 5 Preview for a more White Sox-specific angle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenericUserName Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 45 minutes ago, NorthSideSox72 said: This is a very good description. One small clarification though - it is not the AAA roster, which has a limit of 25, that gets protection. It is the AAA "Reserve List", which is a different list than the roster and has a capacity of 38 players. Yep. I was going to include that but I didn't know what the number was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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