bschmaranz Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 Just now, peavy44 said: So where does it say they're out on him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightsOnMintSt Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 (edited) That doesn’t say they’re out. It actually kind of proved my point. Let’s say Dodgers are willing to go 10-year, $300 million, but the Sox go 10-year, $350 million. Would he take the lower offer to be on the better team, or take the best offer? Edited December 11, 2018 by KnightsOnMintSt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sox72 Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 1 hour ago, lasttriptotulsa said: My God dude, give it a rest. You don't have a source. 1 hour ago, peavy44 said: I do 1 hour ago, soxfan2014 said: On Facebook? Why do you continue to ignore this simple yes/no question? You’re insufferable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 Ok general in thread warning here - this discussion is falling apart and crossing the line into multiple personal attacks. We'll contact individual people as necessary right now but if all people are going to do is yell insults at each other we're going to consider this an appropriate reminder about the rules against personal insults at Soxtalk.com and suspend people who cross it without additional notes. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peavy44 Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, KnightsOnMintSt said: That doesn’t say they’re out. It actually kind of proved my point. Let’s say Dodgers are willing to go 10-year, $300 million, but the Sox go 10-year, $350 million. Would he take the lower offer to be on the better team, or take the best offer? It says right there they are hesitant give out big contract. Edited December 11, 2018 by peavy44 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightsOnMintSt Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 Just now, peavy44 said: It says right here they are hesitant give out big contract. But it doesn’t say what they consider to be a big contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxwinner Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 it's becoming harder and harder to defend peavy44 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peavy44 Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 1 minute ago, KnightsOnMintSt said: But it doesn’t say what they consider to be a big contract. They want Harper on short term deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 2 minutes ago, Sox72 said: Meh. Peavy can still suck my nuts. Worth it. Just to be clear, stuff like this ends. From everyone involved in these threads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitekrazy Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 4 minutes ago, KnightsOnMintSt said: That doesn’t say they’re out. It actually kind of proved my point. Let’s say Dodgers are willing to go 10-year, $300 million, but the Sox go 10-year, $350 million. Would he take the lower offer to be on the better team, or take the best offer? If I'm his agent you go for the extra $50 million. Ya never know when you might need that extra $50M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peavy44 Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 Just now, kitekrazy said: If I'm his agent you go for the extra $50 million. Ya never know when you might need that extra $50M. Harper will make up that $50 million with commercials in LA and he will be 3 hours away from home Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightsOnMintSt Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 3 minutes ago, peavy44 said: They want Harper on short term deal. How do we know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 From a luxury tax standpoint, isn't it harder for teams to manage short term, high AAV contracts because the AAV is what counts for the luxury tax? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 Just now, fathom said: From a luxury tax standpoint, isn't it harder for teams to manage short term, high AAV contracts because the AAV is what counts for the luxury tax? Yes, however I figured bigger consideration was still being able to sign their in-home talent up for extensions and officially just bite bullet while contending and not later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightsOnMintSt Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 Do the Dodgers realistically have any big contracts they need to move before signing Harper, or is the bigger issue they just have a lot of outfielders that would need to be moved? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 4 minutes ago, KnightsOnMintSt said: Do the Dodgers realistically have any big contracts they need to move before signing Harper, or is the bigger issue they just have a lot of outfielders that would need to be moved? Depends on if they're willing to go well back into luxury tax territory. They were deep into tax paying until last year, now there's some comments that maybe they don't want a huge luxury tax bill again. They sign Harper, they're well back into tax territory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 6 minutes ago, KnightsOnMintSt said: Do the Dodgers realistically have any big contracts they need to move before signing Harper, or is the bigger issue they just have a lot of outfielders that would need to be moved? I think they want to get rid of 2 of their outfielders (Joc, Puig, Kemp, Taylor) and 2 of their starters (Hill, Wood, Maeda) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 Is there a reason why I shouldn't like Alex Wood? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reiks12 Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 I mean, they did sign one of the more popular players in McCutchen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 1 minute ago, reiks12 said: Uh oh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bschmaranz Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 1 minute ago, reiks12 said: He's probably just happy because he's officially back to 1B with the McCutchen signing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrathofhahn Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 According to fangraphs Harper was the 34th best position player in baseball over the last three years. https://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx?pos=all&stats=bat&lg=all&qual=0&type=8&season=2018&month=0&season1=2016&ind=0&team=0&rost=0&age=0&filter=&players=0&sort=21,d&page=1_50 400 million seems like a lot for a guy ranked just ahead of Daniel Murphy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveno89 Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 21 minutes ago, kitekrazy said: If I'm his agent you go for the extra $50 million. Ya never know when you might need that extra $50M. The high income tax rate in California surely becomes a consideration on a mega deal like this as well. It's not just $50 million less per se. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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