Bob Sacamano Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 Just whip that wallet out and sign him right there in his hometown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peavy44 Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 6 minutes ago, soxfan2014 said: Just whip that wallet out and sign him right there in his hometown. Maybe harper wants go to Dodgers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 Just now, peavy44 said: Maybe harper wants go to Dodgers. Peavy, where are you from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightsOnMintSt Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 I am itching for some news right now. Any bit would be awesome at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrathofhahn Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 2 hours ago, Dick Allen said: Fangraphs has him higher than that. Sure I prefer DRS and use BR. They also make it much easier carve up the data but regardless of which method you use both say Harper is a bad defender and neither WAR totals justify the kind of contract is looking for. He is looking for perennial MVP type money 7-10 WAR. Even fangraphs which is less hard on his defense has him worth 3 WAR, 4.8 WAR, 3.5 WAR the last three years. None of those years justify 40 million AAV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxwinner Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 kenwo (I know) spoke to nightengale (I know) and nightingale said we have only a slim chance. Kurkijan said a similar thing on the sox talk podcast. I'm starting to believe them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 (edited) Nightengale saying we might try to add both Harper AND Machado. Suddenly he’s my favorite insider and I overlook all his previous missteps! Edited December 11, 2018 by Chicago White Sox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmarComing25 Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 IMO UZR >>>>> DRS, DRS gets way too funky at the extremes. Every year there are guys at both ends of DRS with absurd numbers that aren't close to what the other defensive metrics capture. It also has too drastic of an effect on bWAR for pitchers. The credit BR gave Nola in 2018 for the Phillies' DRS rating was ridiculous. I'm not putting much stock in Bryce's 2018 DRS numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 8 minutes ago, wrathofhahn said: Sure I prefer DRS and use BR. They also make it much easier carve up the data but regardless of which method you use both say Harper is a bad defender and neither WAR totals justify the kind of contract is looking for. He is looking for perennial MVP type money 7-10 WAR. Even fangraphs which is less hard on his defense has him worth 3 WAR, 4.8 WAR, 3.5 WAR the last three years. None of those years justify 40 million AAV Remember - the price of 1 WAR on the free agent market is something close to $9 million right now, on average. A $400 million contract is not saying it's a 7-10 WAR player, not these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peavy44 Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 5 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: Nightengale saying we might in on both Harper AND Machado. Suddenly he’s my favorite insider and I overlook all his previous missteps! Nightengale said harper to phillies few weeks ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 https://twitter.com/JSalisburyNBCS/status/1072570509919969280?s=19 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timbo8 Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 how well do you think Eloy will do this year once he bought up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sockin Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 3 minutes ago, whitesoxwinner said: kenwo (I know) spoke to nightengale (I know) and nightingale said we have only a slim chance. Kurkijan said a similar thing on the sox talk podcast. I'm starting to believe them Nightengale is Bowden levels of bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxBlanco Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 2 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: Nightengale saying we might try to add both Harper AND Machado. Suddenly he’s my favorite insider and I overlook all his previous missteps! Was this a tweet? I didn't see it when I scanned his feed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilJester99 Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 Just now, timbo8 said: how well do you think Eloy will do this year once he bought up? God forbid if he struggles, people will freak the fuck out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 Just now, timbo8 said: how well do you think Eloy will do this year once he bought up? He's a monster, but he'll also be a 22 year old rookie. The projection systems have him at something in the low .800s of OPS and ~3-ish WAR and I think those numbers are probably reasonable if he's healthy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 Just now, peavy44 said: Nightengale said harper to phillies few weeks ago. He was just on MLBN and that’s what he said or seemed to imply. Obviously it’s probably complete bullshit, but sharing what was said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 Hey guys, if you were not a white sox fan, would you bet on the white sox signing harper or Machado? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 2 minutes ago, Buehrle>Wood said: https://twitter.com/JSalisburyNBCS/status/1072570509919969280?s=19 Looks they’re out of the Harper race! (Mostly kidding) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 2 minutes ago, SoxBlanco said: Was this a tweet? I didn't see it when I scanned his feed. MLBN interview. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 1 minute ago, bmags said: Hey guys, if you were not a white sox fan, would you bet on the white sox signing harper or Machado? One of them, probaly yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxBlanco Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 Just now, bmags said: Hey guys, if you were not a white sox fan, would you bet on the white sox signing harper or Machado? Hard to know, because we would be looking at it from a different perspective. I'm guessing I would not think we would sign one of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sockin Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 (edited) What? I can't believe this would be true considering he has to be at the Meetings. But apparently this guy is a reporter? Merkin and Holmes follow him. Edited December 11, 2018 by Sockin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donny Lucy's Avocado Farm Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 8 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: Nightengale saying we might try to add both Harper AND Machado. Suddenly he’s my favorite insider and I overlook all his previous missteps! I really hope this is true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 2 minutes ago, Balta1701 said: He's a monster, but he'll also be a 22 year old rookie. The projection systems have him at something in the low .800s of OPS and ~3-ish WAR and I think those numbers are probably reasonable if he's healthy. Once he comes up we should have a predict his numbers thread. I think I was the best when we did that with Abreu. I think I got indirectly accused of cheating like editing after the fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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