bmags Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 13 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: Not that it means much, but Richard Justice has an article on where he thinks the last seven relievers may go and the White Sox are favorites for several of them: https://amp.mlb.com/302356264-where-top-remaining-fa-relievers-will-sign.amp.html?__twitter_impression=true The only one I don’t see as likely is Madson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 2 minutes ago, bmags said: The only one I don’t see as likely is Madson. Agreed, don’t see him being a fit, but I do think Ottavino or Herrera make a ton of sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 Daaaaamn, our bullpen is gonna be sweeet! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roughneck Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 11 hours ago, Chicago White Sox said: Not that it means much, but Richard Justice has an article on where he thinks the last seven relievers may go and the White Sox are favorites for several of them: https://amp.mlb.com/302356264-where-top-remaining-fa-relievers-will-sign.amp.html?__twitter_impression=true I read this originally as "last seven relievers may go to the White Sox." That would have really been something. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 Just now, Roughneck said: I read this originally as "last seven relievers may go to the White Sox." That would have really been something. Lol...that would have been one deep, but expensive bullpen. But seriously, adding Ottavino or Herrera would give us a fairy deep collection of high quality / high potential arms. I really hope we land one of those guys, preferably Ottavino. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 1 hour ago, Chicago White Sox said: Lol...that would have been one deep, but expensive bullpen. But seriously, adding Ottavino or Herrera would give us a fairy deep collection of high quality / high potential arms. I really hope we land one of those guys, preferably Ottavino. I agree adding any of Ottavino, Herrera or Britton would be nice, but my thoughts are the Sox are kind of waiting to see what this team looks like before committing significant dollars to FA relievers. If we land Machado and let's say Pollock for example, hell ya, let's go out and further extend our bullpen and get another SP. But if we strike out on Machado/Harper, may as well just let the kids have the bullpen for another season and see who rises from the ashes. I wont list all the names, but the Sox have a ton of guys who profile as major league relievers and most of them are major league ready, or least damn close. Some will definitely flame out, and others like Fulmer probably already have, but if the Sox are going to for sure suck again in 2019, may as well give all those guys another trial run. You can add a guy like Ottavino next offseason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 1 minute ago, ChiSox59 said: I agree adding any of Ottavino, Herrera or Britton would be nice, but my thoughts are the Sox are kind of waiting to see what this team looks like before committing significant dollars to FA relievers. If we land Machado and let's say Pollock for example, hell ya, let's go out and further extend our bullpen and get another SP. But if we strike out on Machado/Harper, may as well just let the kids have the bullpen for another season and see who rises from the ashes. I wont list all the names, but the Sox have a ton of guys who profile as major league relievers and most of them are major league ready, or least damn close. Some will definitely flame out, and others like Fulmer probably already have, but if the Sox are going to for sure suck again in 2019, may as well give all those guys another trial run. You can add a guy like Ottavino next offseason. I generally agree, although I think a guy like Ottavino’s value could skyrocket if given the closer’s role and achieving similar results to last year. If I can get him for two years at $10M/$11M per, I’d be willing to do that without a whale. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 7 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: I generally agree, although I think a guy like Ottavino’s value could skyrocket if given the closer’s role and achieving similar results to last year. If I can get him for two years at $10M/$11M per, I’d be willing to do that without a whale. Realistically we already have a guy like that in Colome. He's basically on a two year $16-18M deal (with the second year non guaranteed), and his value could definitely increase if given the closers role and he excels. Really no need to add another potential closer if this team's offense remains putrid. That's like buying a Ferrari but you can't afford the gas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roughneck Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 13 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: I generally agree, although I think a guy like Ottavino’s value could skyrocket if given the closer’s role and achieving similar results to last year. If I can get him for two years at $10M/$11M per, I’d be willing to do that without a whale. Yeah. If you can get Ottavino for that, you do it. And assuming he doesn't blow up, they could always trade him at the deadline if 2019 is worse than expected and they aren't yet respectable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 1 hour ago, ChiSox59 said: Realistically we already have a guy like that in Colome. He's basically on a two year $16-18M deal (with the second year non guaranteed), and his value could definitely increase if given the closers role and he excels. Really no need to add another potential closer if this team's offense remains putrid. That's like buying a Ferrari but you can't afford the gas. While no doubt his value could increase by being the closer, I don’t think Colome has anywhere close to the ceiling Ottavino has. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 Just now, Chicago White Sox said: While no doubt his value could increase by being the closer, I don’t think Colome has anywhere close to the ceiling Ottavino has. I agree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSpalehoseCWS Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 6 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: While no doubt his value could increase by being the closer, I don’t think Colome has anywhere close to the ceiling Ottavino has. Colome is 3 years younger and theoretically has much more left in the tank. I think it comes down to if you think a 33 year old Ottavino had a career year or finally figured it out. Ottavino would be a riskier move. Despite that, I still want him, hahahah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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bschmaranz Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 If those numbers are right I'm a little disappointed. Would've thought we'd be able to best that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ChiSox59 Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 3 minutes ago, bschmaranz said: If those numbers are right I'm a little disappointed. Would've thought we'd be able to best that. Yah, I’d rather have Ottavino at 3/$25M than Herrera on his deal. But I do think Ottavino has a decent chance of not being anywhere near as good as he was in 2018 moving forward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bschmaranz Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 Just now, Sleepy Harold said: I bet you we wouldn't give him the 3rd year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxFanMike Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 How could the Sox not beat that deal? Goddamnit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saufley Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 9 minutes ago, bschmaranz said: If those numbers are right I'm a little disappointed. Would've thought we'd be able to best that. Like you, I hope the 24/7 time spent on Machado doesn't hurt us with other possible signings. IF they are working with other FA's hopefully something gets reported soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 Please change the thread title from "Sox have interest in non-$300M free agents as well" to "Sox have interest in non-$175M free agents as well". Thanks. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSpalehoseCWS Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 (edited) 17 minutes ago, bschmaranz said: If those numbers are right I'm a little disappointed. Would've thought we'd be able to best that. Who says they didn’t? If you’re 33 year old Adam Ottavino and you had two similar deals from the Yankees or the 100 loss White Sox, where would you go? Would have been awesome if the Sox could have gotten him. Edited January 17, 2019 by CWSpalehoseCWS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bschmaranz Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 16 minutes ago, CWSpalehoseCWS said: Who says they didn’t? If you’re 33 year old Adam Ottavino and you had two similar deals from the Yankees or the 100 loss White Sox, where would you go? Would have been awesome if the Sox could have gotten him. Fair point. He grew up a Yankee fan too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 31 minutes ago, bschmaranz said: I bet you we wouldn't give him the 3rd year. I don't disagree with them choosing not to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EloyJenkins Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 (edited) 6 minutes ago, fathom said: I don't disagree with them choosing not to Agreed. Relievers on longer 3/4 year deals have shown that at least 1 year is generally a dud or an unlucky one, so basically paying an additional 9mil season hoping that 2/3 are good isn't best use of funds. Also, we have some good talent in minors ready within that time frame Edited January 17, 2019 by EloyJenkins Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 So does he pitch the 5th or the 6th inning? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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