Chi Town Sox Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 I understand the tension but everyone relax. Nothing there says we are out, no need to try to go any deeper than what was actually said. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 2 minutes ago, Harry Chappas said: Yes, if they miss on both of these guys and the rationale is that the Sox offered the most money and it was just a matter of them being the Sox then they are descending into Bulls territory. Just now, Jack Parkman said: I agree with this take. Have the Sox players formed a mutiny and contacted the MLBPA over extreme managing tactics anytime recently? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 I don't know why he bothered saying that stuff - no kidding it's not all about the top financial offer. Everyone knows that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Jose Abreu said: Have the Sox players formed a mutiny and contacted the MLBPA over extreme managing tactics anytime recently? Not yet, but wait about 3-5 years... Both teams have been a clown college for the better part of a decade. Remember how we felt in June 2016? Edited December 13, 2018 by Jack Parkman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTruth05 Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 Just now, Jack Parkman said: Not yet, but wait about 3-5 years... What? lol cmon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 1 minute ago, Jose Abreu said: Have the Sox players formed a mutiny and contacted the MLBPA over extreme managing tactics anytime recently? well they did almost forfeit a spring training game due to a child 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 Just now, Jose Abreu said: Have the Sox players formed a mutiny and contacted the MLBPA over extreme managing tactics anytime recently? I am only talking about targeting and securing free agents. I am not trying to crap on the team of front office but if they target both and lose out on both there are concerns in my mind. There are putting in the effort and all that but they cannot finalize the mega-deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peppers312 Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 1 minute ago, Harry Chappas said: I am only talking about targeting and securing free agents. I am not trying to crap on the team of front office but if they target both and lose out on both there are concerns in my mind. There are putting in the effort and all that but they cannot finalize the mega-deal. so now you're comparing KW/Hahn to GarPax? gtfo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 1 minute ago, Tony said: I was more referencing you thinking this already over.... I think the longer it drags on the opportunity for a team to find the ability to drop salary will open up for a higher profile team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 Just now, peppers312 said: so now you're comparing KW/Hahn to GarPax? gtfo Yeah, that's not fair...Pax has had a team over .500 in the last 6 years In all honesty though, the Sox are just too irrelevant these days. When you have horrible attendance, horrible TV ratings and a horrible team....you're not exactly at the top of everyone's wish list. The unique situation exists this offseason in that Harper and Machado might not take the most money (like what usually happens) due to unusual circumstances (Harper wanting to play with Bryant, Manny being a Yanks fan) 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 Just now, peppers312 said: so now you're comparing KW/Hahn to GarPax? gtfo No what I am saying is that if the Sox target and are unable to land either free agent then to me in the free agency world they are becoming very similar to the Bulls in that they can try and be in play but in reality they will not play. They will grab a couple of mid-tier guys maybe a handful in one off-season but not he big boy free agents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peppers312 Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 2 minutes ago, fathom said: Yeah, that's not fair...Pax has had a team over .500 in the last 6 years In all honesty though, the Sox are just too irrelevant these days. When you have horrible attendance, horrible TV ratings and a horrible team....you're not exactly at the top of everyone's wish list. The unique situation exists this offseason in that Harper and Machado might not take the most money (like what usually happens) due to unusual circumstances (Harper wanting to play with Bryant, Manny being a Yanks fan) and for all we know maybe Harper/Boras are waiting to see how Machado's visits go and what the $$$ value of his contract offers look like... everyone should just sit back, relax and strap it down. LOL we could be in for a long ride. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 https://fancredsports.com/articles/inside-baseball-making-sense-of-the-harper-macha 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 Is anyone concerned about Merkin's tweets regarding this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 21 minutes ago, fathom said: yep, we're his safety school right now. Still waiting to hear back from his dream school(s) The Cubs haven’t even met with him from what I’ve seen. And I’m not yet convinced the Dodgers are eager to spend the money on him. I think this “he’s waiting on teams to free up money” narrative is complete BS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 1 minute ago, Chicago White Sox said: The Cubs haven’t even met with him from what I’ve seen. And I’m not yet convinced the Dodgers are eager to spend the money on him. I think this “he’s waiting on teams to free up money” narrative is complete BS. Then why hasn't he already signed with us or Philadelphia? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peavy44 Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 6 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: The Cubs haven’t even met with him from what I’ve seen. And I’m not yet convinced the Dodgers are eager to spend the money on him. I think this “he’s waiting on teams to free up money” narrative is complete BS. Why is harper waiting then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 Jon Heyman has Harper going to the Sox, he said on MLB Network Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peppers312 Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 Just now, Whitesox27 said: Is anyone concerned about Merkin's tweets regarding this? no, because if you actually watch the interview and listen to Hahn talk about it, he doesn't sounds concerned so i'm not going to be. the process could end tomorrow, it could end in Jan/Feb. enjoy the ride! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peavy44 Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 Hes waiting on the cubs or dodgers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 1 minute ago, Jose Abreu said: Then why hasn't he already signed with us or Philadelphia? Machado hasn't met with anyone yet apparently and Harper's agent is Scott Boras, Scott Boras is only going to have his player sign now if he thinks there's a real chance that his best offer could evaporate with nothing comparable available. At least for the near future, there's no pressure for either of them to finish. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peppers312 Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 Just now, peavy44 said: Why is harper waiting then. maybe he's waiting for Machado to set the price tag? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 11 minutes ago, fathom said: Yeah, that's not fair...Pax has had a team over .500 in the last 6 years In all honesty though, the Sox are just too irrelevant these days. When you have horrible attendance, horrible TV ratings and a horrible team....you're not exactly at the top of everyone's wish list. The unique situation exists this offseason in that Harper and Machado might not take the most money (like what usually happens) due to unusual circumstances (Harper wanting to play with Bryant, Manny being a Yanks fan) There is absolutely nothing to suggest either player would take less money to play for their desired teams. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peppers312 Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 Just now, Balta1701 said: Machado hasn't met with anyone yet apparently and Harper's agent is Scott Boras, Scott Boras is only going to have his player sign now if he thinks there's a real chance that his best offer could evaporate with nothing comparable available. At least for the near future, there's no pressure for either of them to finish. exactly. at least that's what i'm doing if i'm a free agent in this situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maggsmaggs Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 (edited) 1 minute ago, peavy44 said: Why is harper waiting then. Because he is about to sign a contract that could very well take him into retirement, and he wants to make an educated and informed decision about who that team will be. Edited December 13, 2018 by maggsmaggs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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