Sleepy Harold Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 (edited) Backup C found. Edited December 14, 2018 by Sleepy Harold Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 Meh. Was hoping for Grandal. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turnin' two Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 Just now, ChiSox59 said: Meh. Was hoping for Grandal. I'm happy with this because it rules out Grandal. He is going to get paid a lot and cost a draft pick. I don't really buy into him. This also may show that the Sox have some level of faith in Zavala and Collins in about a year. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Princess Dye Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 Prefer Narv or even Kevan S. but nonetheless, this is fine based on what our planning seems to be pointing towards 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 It's like the Sox only target catchers whose value is only high if you ignore the influence of framing 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanne Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 I'm still a little bitter losing Kevan Smith. I realize he was a marginal player and all...but moreso Kevan Smith the person than catcher. But he did a great job for this team and organization IMO. Will always be a fan of his... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 Horrible signing and very disappointed by this. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 2 minutes ago, Wanne said: I'm still a little bitter losing Kevan Smith. I realize he was a marginal player and all...but moreso Kevan Smith the person than catcher. But he did a great job for this team and organization IMO. Will always be a fan of his... I didn’t even think much of Kevan Smith, but McCann is actually a downgrade IMO. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turnin' two Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Jake said: It's like the Sox only target catchers whose value is only high if you ignore the influence of framing Seems like a weird statement after trading Narvaez and signing Castillo a year ago. Plus, as has been discussed, there are some problems with using pitch framing as the most important factor as it seems like it is pretty volatile. I have to agree heartily with the preferring Kevan Smith though. Edited December 14, 2018 by turnin' two Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 (edited) 15 minutes ago, turnin' two said: I'm happy with this because it rules out Grandal. He is going to get paid a lot and cost a draft pick. I don't really buy into him. This also may show that the Sox have some level of faith in Zavala and Collins in about a year. $15M AAV for an elite framer and high OBP catcher when we have nothing committed long term isn’t a lot IMO. I also think we’d potentially be getting him at a value due to his strange issues in the playoffs. But that ship appears to have sailed. Edited December 14, 2018 by ChiSox59 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
username Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 I mean he’s light years better on defense than what we’ve had. That’s kind of what most smart teams go for in a backup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 5 minutes ago, Jake said: It's like the Sox only target catchers whose value is only high if you ignore the influence of framing It's really weird. I mean, last year they made show of it with Castillos improvement and it being why they signed him. But like Flowers completely scarred them and they just keep throwing average offensive/terrible defensive catcher one after another, and trade away home grown completely acceptable catchers if that's their only goal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GREEDY Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 Just now, username said: I mean he’s light years better on defense than what we’ve had. That’s kind of what most smart teams go for in a backup. Simply not true. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turnin' two Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 1 minute ago, ChiSox59 said: $15M AAV for an elite farmer and high OBP catcher when we have nothing committed long term isn’t a lot IMO. I also think we’d potentially be getting him at a value due to his strange issues in the playoffs. But that ship appears to have sailed. Well now, I didn't know that! If it is corn than he definitely would have worked here in Illinois! ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonofaRoache Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 Pass.gov Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmarComing25 Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 I don’t get the point. He shouldn’t cost anything but if you’re going to get a light hitting catcher at least get a decent framer. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxBlanco Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 1 minute ago, GREEDY said: Simply not true. He's not good defensively? Or most smart teams don't go for that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSpalehoseCWS Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 For all we know, he could be off the team by June 1 if Zavala bounces back at Charlotte. Nothing to get upset over when it’ll probably be a short lived deal. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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OmarComing25 Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 Really wanted Grandal. Oh well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swingandalongonetoleft Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 Jesus... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GREEDY Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 1 minute ago, SoxBlanco said: He's not good defensively? Or most smart teams don't go for that? Above average controlling the run game. Average - Below average on passed balls. Below average - bad on framing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 (edited) Interesting. I really figured they were going to be heavy on Grandal. Wonder if this indicates how they feel about landing a Harpchado. Edited December 14, 2018 by DirtySox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 1 minute ago, OmarComing25 said: I don’t get the point. He shouldn’t cost anything but if you’re going to get a light hitting catcher at least get a decent framer. This move really makes me angry. We have three young starting pitchers that could be helped tremendously by having an excellent framer and trading Narvaez seemed to suggest that was the path we were going. But nope, we got to go out and sign a catcher that’s better but still bad. Incredibly frustrating. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 6 minutes ago, turnin' two said: Well now, I didn't know that! If it is corn than he definitely would have worked here in Illinois! ? Haha, damn autocorrect. FRAMER! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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