JUSTgottaBELIEVE Posted December 29, 2018 Share Posted December 29, 2018 http://www.chicagonow.com/cubs-den/2018/12/cubs-rumors-heyward-to-giants-harper-watch/ Rock Raines’ source = Bruce Levine or Charles the Cat?? jk, I think... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxBlanco Posted December 29, 2018 Share Posted December 29, 2018 6 hours ago, Jack Parkman said: CWS, Rock has been posting here for at least a decade and he has solid sources. Before Rock said this, I was pretty optimistic there were no realistic options for the Cubs to move money, and all signs pointed to the Sox by process of elimination. As time went on, I was starting to believe more and more the Sox could actually land Harper, because there was no real market for him. If Boras and Theo were buddy buddy the whole time and Theo just needed to find someone to take Heyward, and he'd be willing to give up whatever it took within reason to dump him, Harper was going to the Cubs the whole time and there was literally nothing any other FO could do to change that. If Machado is going to the Yankees, the same is true for him. He was going there the whole time and there was nothing anyone could do to change that. It isn't some epic failure, it is just bad timing and that Machado and Harper are more concerned with winning now, and cashing in later if they stay healthy. Can you really blame them? I’m still confused by this report from Rock. First he said that Schwarber and Heyward “will be dealt”. Then he said they might not be able to move Heyward. So which is it? Do they have a deal in place, or are they just exploring trade options? Doesn’t sound like anything official to me. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted December 29, 2018 Share Posted December 29, 2018 6 hours ago, SoxAce said: That PM exchange we had a couple weeks ago is starting to take shape eh? Is this the same PM exchange you were talking about when Ron said something big was happening with the Cubs that exact day and nothing ever did? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted December 29, 2018 Share Posted December 29, 2018 42 minutes ago, SoxBlanco said: I’m still confused by this report from Rock. First he said that Schwarber and Heyward “will be dealt”. Then he said they might not be able to move Heyward. So which is it? Do they have a deal in place, or are they just exploring trade options? Doesn’t sound like anything official to me. I agree that the rumor had some inconsistencies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted December 29, 2018 Share Posted December 29, 2018 10 hours ago, RockRaines said: The cubs will unload whatever it takes was what I heard. And Harper is waiting for it Cmon, dude. This is more of the same nonsense coming from a lazy Chicago media that knows jack shit about anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted December 29, 2018 Share Posted December 29, 2018 8 hours ago, fathom said: But this is in response to rock's news, not a Heyman or Morosi report. Look, anything is possible. But if the Cubs sign Harper it’s because 1) they don’t give a shit about 2-3 years from now; 2) they blew through the tax this year anyway; and 3) now they don’t have money to make the upgrades they actually need to make Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUSTgottaBELIEVE Posted December 29, 2018 Share Posted December 29, 2018 All I know is that the idea of the Cubs being in play for Harper is a great way for Boras to drive up the WS offer. I still think the WS are the favorite to land Harper. If he was set on either the Dodgers or Cubs he would have either (1) signed by now or (2) there would be more activity and moving pieces involving those clubs (I’m not convinced the Dodgers view OF as their greatest area of need and best use of resources). I’ll be getting together with one of my buddies that works for the Sox marketing department on NYE. I’ll be curious to see what his thoughts are on the entire situation. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted December 29, 2018 Share Posted December 29, 2018 If the cubs trade heyward, almora, schwarber and a top prospect for cueto and sign harper i think tjey become hamstrung in a couple years and also have no outfield unless they sign pollock. Im not sure they are better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted December 29, 2018 Share Posted December 29, 2018 14 hours ago, southsider2k5 said: If I were offered a top end prospect, Almora, and Shwarber to take on most of Heyward, I would do it happily. They don't have any top end prospects. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcq Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 Did anyone catch five tweets from Steve Phillips Friday. Does not believe Cubs Phil's Nat's or Dodgers are IN on Harpo. Then he points to the alt Chicago team. Again I would never count on a player who works with Boras. We have no concrete hints that Harpo is headed here. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boopa1219 Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 The Giants have a lot of bad contracts. I don’t see them taking on another, especially that Heyward deal at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 Offer 10/350 for Harper. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxBlanco Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 22 minutes ago, Harry Chappas said: Offer 10/350 for Harper. If we miss out on Machado, I’d offer even more than that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSpalehoseCWS Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 34 minutes ago, Harry Chappas said: Offer 10/350 for Harper. I'd go 10/380 personally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 14 minutes ago, CWSpalehoseCWS said: I'd go 10/380 personally. I'd go 12/425 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross Gload Fan Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 I'd go 24/2.3B 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special K Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 If it would get him (Harper) to sign, I’d seriously offer him some kind of ownership interest contingent on him being a lifer with the Sox (with Sox right to buy it back or something). He’d be invested and likely recruit other players as well. It would be the best investment for this team ever it made them relevant again. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 4 minutes ago, Special K said: If it would get him (Harper) to sign, I’d seriously offer him some kind of ownership interest contingent on him being a lifer with the Sox (with Sox right to buy it back or something). He’d be invested and likely recruit other players as well. It would be the best investment for this team ever it made them relevant again. I'm not sure that such a deal is legal per the collective bargaining agreement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsox Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 1 hour ago, Special K said: If it would get him (Harper) to sign, I’d seriously offer him some kind of ownership interest contingent on him being a lifer with the Sox (with Sox right to buy it back or something). He’d be invested and likely recruit other players as well. It would be the best investment for this team ever it made them relevant again. Ownership not gonna happen. Other owners have to approve, and they don't want to start that bag of worms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HakunaMachado Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 (edited) Edited December 31, 2018 by HakunaMachado 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 33 minutes ago, oldsox said: Ownership not gonna happen. Other owners have to approve, and they don't want to start that bag of worms. Pretty sure that only applies to majority ownership and not to minority shares distributed by the ownership group. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special K Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 2 hours ago, Balta1701 said: I'm not sure that such a deal is legal per the collective bargaining agreement. If it were legal, those are the lengths to which I would go. Assuming the Sox were the highest bid and still can’t sign a big FA because of lack of desirability to play for us, then FO needs to think outside the box and be willing to do stuff like that if they really care about future of Team. Once you net one big FA, then that perception goes away. Alternatively, they better figure out how to develop superstars in house. Something they haven’t been able to do offensively since Frank Thomas (or maybe Magglio if he counts)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 On 12/29/2018 at 9:00 AM, iamshack said: Cmon, dude. This is more of the same nonsense coming from a lazy Chicago media that knows jack shit about anything. It’s possible. She works for them. But it seemed first hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 On 12/29/2018 at 7:09 AM, SoxBlanco said: I’m still confused by this report from Rock. First he said that Schwarber and Heyward “will be dealt”. Then he said they might not be able to move Heyward. So which is it? Do they have a deal in place, or are they just exploring trade options? Doesn’t sound like anything official to me. I was just posting what I heard at dinner from a beat reporter. Nothing more. Nothing less. She seemed very confident. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 6 minutes ago, RockRaines said: It’s possible. She works for them. But it seemed first hand. Didn’t mean to kill the messenger. I guess anything is possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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