Moan4Yoan Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 i think Palka playing RF and trying to hit a bomb every at bat makes them more watchable than Adam Jones or CarGo. Plus, watching Palka attempt to play defense in the outfield is hilarious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 7 minutes ago, fathom said: Jones or CarGo makes them more watchable? Jones is a statue on the field now. Is he really Palka Bad? Never mind then. I just want someone who will help the young pitchers in RF by playing acceptable D and having an arm suited for the position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moan4Yoan Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 (edited) 19 minutes ago, iamshack said: Good. Hopefully you will then leave. Will Harper sign with the Phillies or Sox? I would love to hear your prediction based on your sources. As far as my comments on WSD, this is all anyone needs to hear... https://www.barstoolsports.com/boston/breaking-white-sox-dave-is-dead-he-is-now-a-mouse-of-a-man Edited February 24, 2019 by Harper2Sox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swingandalongonetoleft Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 (edited) 31 minutes ago, Jack Parkman said: I don't mind them signing Jones or CarGo for RF at this point. Whatever makes the MLB team more watchable.... There is nothing they can do to make this situation any better other than standing pat with the garbage they have already collected (essentially, they should SHUT THE FUCK UP and not make things worse than they already are). Signing more of it to go along with Alonso and Jay will not make this shit more watchable. Adding CarGo or Jones (or fucking Denard Span!!!!!!) is the equivalent of struggling in quicksand while trying to get out. Every new signing is just another twist of the knife. What are you going to flip any of these bums for at the deadline? One of those coupon cards that they hand out to you if you get to the game early enough? Edited February 24, 2019 by Swingandalongonetoleft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 9 minutes ago, Harper2Sox said: Will Harper sign with the Phillies or Sox? I would love to hear your prediction based on your sources. As far as my comments on WSD, this is all anyone needs to hear... https://www.barstoolsports.com/boston/breaking-white-sox-dave-is-dead-he-is-now-a-mouse-of-a-man How many times has Jeff Passan credited you for getting something right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 3 minutes ago, iamshack said: How many times has Jeff Passan credited you for getting something right? Ironically WSD was one of the first to say "Preller is the wild card, as no one knows what he's thinking" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigHurt3515 Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 Shack, thank you for putting yourself out there and giving some sort of inside info through this offseason even though a lot of people accuse you of lying. Any info on Harper or is it pretty much what we have seen so far in the media? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bschmaranz Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 8 minutes ago, iamshack said: How many times has Jeff Passan credited you for getting something right? That and look up Portnoy. I don't know a bigger piece of shit in sports media. He makes Jim Rome look like an upstanding citizen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 2 minutes ago, bschmaranz said: That and look up Portnoy. I don't know a bigger piece of shit in sports media. He makes Jim Rome look like an upstanding citizen. It’s all a schtick...he works for Portnoy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 11 minutes ago, BigHurt3515 said: Shack, thank you for putting yourself out there and giving some sort of inside info through this offseason even though a lot of people accuse you of lying. Any info on Harper or is it pretty much what we have seen so far in the media? Appreciate it. I think if you read between the lines of what Heyman was tweeting tonight, you can get a pretty decent idea of what is really happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyNamesRod Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 They're one of the teams meeting in Vegas? 3 minutes ago, iamshack said: Appreciate it. I think if you read between the lines of what Heyman was tweeting tonight, you can get a pretty decent idea of what is really happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moan4Yoan Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 (edited) 8 minutes ago, iamshack said: Appreciate it. I think if you read between the lines of what Heyman was tweeting tonight, you can get a pretty decent idea of what is really happening. Could you be more specific? This is a bit vague. I would love to hear the details. It would be amazing if Harper is in a Sox uniform by Monday. Edited February 24, 2019 by Harper2Sox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moan4Yoan Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 (edited) 6 minutes ago, MyNamesRod said: They're one of the teams meeting in Vegas? I’m hoping iamshack says we are. That could flip this offseason upside down. Harper to the Sox would be a dream come true. Edited February 24, 2019 by Harper2Sox 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 Not that I necessarily believe it, but various members of Padres twitter seem to think the Padres offered Bryce a 10 year deal over 300 tonight. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 5 minutes ago, fathom said: Not that I necessarily believe it, but various members of Padres twitter seem to think the Padres offered Bryce a 10 year deal over 300 tonight. lol where did the Padres get more than half a billion dollars from Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southwest Sider Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 Y'all fucking relax and let the cards fall where they may. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 5 minutes ago, chw42 said: lol where did the Padres get more than half a billion dollars from Fowler joined a new group to purchase the Padres that included four heirs to the O’Malley family—who owned the Los Angeles Dodgers franchise for five decades. Kevin and Brian O'Malley are the sons of former Dodgers owner Peter O'Malley and grandsons of Walter O'Malley, the owner who moved the Dodgers west from Brooklyn after the 1957 season. Peter and Tom Seidler are the nephews of Peter O’Malley.[4] MLB approved the $800 million sale,[4][5]which completed on August 28, 2012.[6] As much as $200 million of the sale price included the team's 20-percent stake in Fox Sports San Diego, a cable channel that pays the Padres annual fees as part of a $1.2 billion, 20-year agreement.[7] Fowler was named the ownership group's executive chairman and was designated to represent the Padres in all league meetings.[4][8] He became the first locally based control person of the team since founding owner C. Arnholdt Smith.[8] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KiwiSox Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 I have been banging the Harper instead of Machado drum all off-season. I genuinely think the White Sox agree with me wholeheartedly that it is worth letting Machado go to San Diego if it means they stay in the Harper derby. Some maybe think that's gullible and stupidly optimistic, but I look at everything they've done (actually done) and the Machado negotiations seemed like half-ass media games and overblown deals to guys like Jon Jay in an effort to lure Machado in on a cheap deal then turning around and trying to grab Harper. I dont think Machado was ever their primary target. Nothing has happened in the last week to change my mind. The Sox are all over Harper and just because the blue checkmarks aren't reporting it doesn't mean it isn't so. 3 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 14 minutes ago, KiwiSox said: I have been banging the Harper instead of Machado drum all off-season. I genuinely think the White Sox agree with me wholeheartedly that it is worth letting Machado go to San Diego if it means they stay in the Harper derby. Some maybe think that's gullible and stupidly optimistic, but I look at everything they've done (actually done) and the Machado negotiations seemed like half-ass media games and overblown deals to guys like Jon Jay in an effort to lure Machado in on a cheap deal then turning around and trying to grab Harper. I dont think Machado was ever their primary target. Nothing has happened in the last week to change my mind. The Sox are all over Harper and just because the blue checkmarks aren't reporting it doesn't mean it isn't so. Jay and Alonso easily could have been added later...with Alonso totally superfluous and Jay on a non guaranteed deal similar to Santana’s. No need at all just to light $13 million on fire without knowing you had a whale secured first. If that was really the case (thinking it would somehow influence the decision), then why not just go ahead and add Pederson as well, because you weren’t competing this year with either guy but at least you might have created the perception of an enhanced opportunity to compete (especially with Keuchel as well) ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 32 minutes ago, caulfield12 said: Fowler joined a new group to purchase the Padres that included four heirs to the O’Malley family—who owned the Los Angeles Dodgers franchise for five decades. Kevin and Brian O'Malley are the sons of former Dodgers owner Peter O'Malley and grandsons of Walter O'Malley, the owner who moved the Dodgers west from Brooklyn after the 1957 season. Peter and Tom Seidler are the nephews of Peter O’Malley.[4] MLB approved the $800 million sale,[4][5]which completed on August 28, 2012.[6] As much as $200 million of the sale price included the team's 20-percent stake in Fox Sports San Diego, a cable channel that pays the Padres annual fees as part of a $1.2 billion, 20-year agreement.[7] Fowler was named the ownership group's executive chairman and was designated to represent the Padres in all league meetings.[4][8] He became the first locally based control person of the team since founding owner C. Arnholdt Smith.[8] A $600 million investment from them is probably half the value of their entire franchise. That's pretty crazy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 2 minutes ago, chw42 said: A $600 million investment from them is probably half the value of their entire franchise. That's pretty crazy. There’s no doubt it’s a huge but calculated risk...especially not knowing exactly what you have on the starting pitching side and not having the ability to outbid the big boys in next year’s FA market for top veteran starters. They already went through 2015/16 and the massive disappointment that turned out to be for all involved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KiwiSox Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 1 minute ago, caulfield12 said: Jay and Alonso easily could have been added later...with Alonso totally superfluous and Jay on a non guaranteed deal similar to Santana’s. No need at all just to light $13 million on fire without knowing you had a whale secured first. If that was really the case (thinking it would somehow influence the decision), then why not just go ahead and add Pederson as well, because you weren’t competing this year with either guy but at least you might have created the perception of an enhanced opportunity to compete (especially with Keuchel as well) ? As long as Alonso's option doesn't vest, which it probably wont since he wont play a defensive position, I think there's a chance the $10m they pay him actually turns out to be an OK use of funds. Same applies to Jay. Its not like those guys aren't MLB-caliber players or taking time away from someone we actually care about, I mean who is there to care about? The minors got decimated last year. Everyone except for Eloy and Cease is a corpse. I dont mind giving Jay and Alonso some time while we wait for one or two once-heralded minor leaguers to try and reanimate. Nobody wants to view those moves outside the context of Manny Machado but I think its about time for us to do just that. Would I have liked to see the Sox drop $300m on Manny Machado? Sure. Its not my money. Do I really think Machado is that great of a ballplayer? Not really. Would I sacrifice a chance at Bryce Harper to sign Manny Machado to what is honestly going to wind up being too much money? Absolutely not. There is a better class of ballplayer available than Machado and I do not think Harper is going to cost that much more to acquire. Everyone's ready to burn down everything and salt the fields right now and I'll be right behind you if Harper goes elsewhere...but something is telling me the Sox are in the driver's seat when it comes to Harper. Same way the Sox were publicly all over Machado the Phillies are with Harper. Fear the team that is not being talked about, the Sox could easily be that team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 Preparing for a 2nd meltdown Monday. Gonna need a lot of pacifiers with honey. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KiwiSox Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 35 minutes ago, BlackSox13 said: Preparing for a 2nd meltdown Monday. Gonna need a lot of pacifiers with honey. I think were all pretty well emotionally prepared for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lillian Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 "CWSpalehose" expressed his suspicion that Middleton and Reinsdorf have colluded, by agreeing that the Sox would not pursue Harper, if the Phillies promised not to pursue Machado. That scenario is intriguing because it provides a plausible explanation for, what otherwise is their inexplicable abandonment of their determined attempts to sign Harper. I've been reading the rules regarding MLB collusion. They are not the clearest, or easiest set of rules to understand. Would a "gentlemen's agreement" between 2 owners, regarding their respective player acquisition targets, clearly be considered collusion? It's one thing to conspire regarding limiting the length, or value, of contracts, but quite another for one owner to simply say, I won't pursue X, if you won't pursue Y. Is there a legal mind here, who could clarify this issue? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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