Bob Sacamano Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 (edited) 5 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: The Sox haven't even made an official offer if the rumors are correct. Right. And if they had, you better believe Boras is leaking that out to the media. Unless, as someone below pointed out, they are the mystery team. Edited February 27, 2019 by soxfan2014 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 1 minute ago, southsider2k5 said: The Sox haven't even made an official offer if the rumors are correct. Well there is they "mystery team" offer that is over $300M, along with the Phillies. We know its not the Dodgers or he would have signed. All indications are the Giants are not willing to go that long. So....could very well be the Sox. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 4 minutes ago, ChiSox59 said: Well there is they "mystery team" offer that is over $300M, along with the Phillies. We know its not the Dodgers or he would have signed. All indications are the Giants are not willing to go that long. So....could very well be the Sox. C'mon man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 3 minutes ago, ChiSox59 said: Well there is they "mystery team" offer that is over $300M, along with the Phillies. We know its not the Dodgers or he would have signed. All indications are the Giants are not willing to go that long. So....could very well be the Sox. It could be. It could be a "what if we offer"... kind of thing. It could be a real offer, or it could be complete BS from Boras. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 2 minutes ago, ChiSox59 said: Because there is a significant difference between 4/$160M and 10/$320M???? 1 minute ago, Y2Jimmy0 said: I agree with you/ A team like the Dodgers is screwed financially if they do a short-term deal. I think if he ends up in LA, the deal will be like 13-14 years with opt outs to lower the CBT amount. Yeah, i should have elaborated there - the Dodgers put themselves into real risk of the highest CBA penalty, including a 42.5% tax on everything, if they signed Harper for $40 million/year. They're right at the tax line right now, give or take a few million of manuevering. The luxury tax penalty jumpes to 42.5% in year 1 if they are $40 million over. The 10/$350 longer term deal is actually more favorable to the Dodgers as it avoids the huge penalty line. They also would lose draft position if they crossed that line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EloyJenkins Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 IF the Phillies are truly out...once again the Sox are in an amazing position to get another HOF type talent that will sell tickets. Unless the Giants or Dodgers are offering over 300 million contracts, there is absolutely no reason the Sox shouldn't offer 10/326 and an opt out at 4/5 years. He would accept that TODAY. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 2 hours ago, caulfield12 said: A “fair” but not cheap deal for Puig at 29 would be 3 years and $54 million or four years and $70...about what Pollock got, albeit less injuries and younger. Puig has averaged 1.9 fWAR the last three seasons. I can’t imagine paying Castellanos or Ozuna much more or less that that. And therein lies the problem...between our second tier of outfielders being unsure to even hit 2 and the opportunity cost that goes with not spending on a really good veteran starting pitcher. Of course, they SHOULD be able to accommodate two contracts like that. If Hahn gives that contract to Puig then he should be fired on the spot. Locking up $17M on a 2 win OF when we have half a dozen prospects would have a complete disaster Also, we should be able to accommodate more than two big contracts with the amount of young guys we’ll be relying on. Adding a veteran bat should have no bearing on our ability to add a stud pitcher. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mqr Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 I can't even imagine my thought process if the Sox somehow pulled that off (they won't). 'Well, that's awesome, but you still manage to completely botch it on your guy.' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Focurjay Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 So, how many pages until we find out that Bryce Harper is not signing with the White Sox? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 1 minute ago, EloyJenkins said: IF the Phillies are truly out...once again the Sox are in an amazing position to get another HOF type talent that will sell tickets. Unless the Giants or Dodgers are offering over 300 million contracts, there is absolutely no reason the Sox shouldn't offer 10/326 and an opt out at 4/5 years. He would accept that TODAY. To me, it would mean Phillies are out because Bryce just doesn't want to go there, not because they're not offering enough. Sox would probably fit that criteria as well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxFanMike Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 10/350 guaranteed, opt out after year 5 with incentives based on performance. Win/win for both sides. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 12 minutes ago, Y2Jimmy0 said: I agree with you/ A team like the Dodgers is screwed financially if they do a short-term deal. I think if he ends up in LA, the deal will be like 13-14 years with opt outs to lower the CBT amount. I could see that. Dodgers are smart enough to do something unique. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 7 minutes ago, Dick Allen said: C'mon man. I don't necessarily think it is, and I've said all along I don't think Harper has interest in the signing with the Sox. I think they could offer 10/$330M and it could be the best offer by $30M and he won't take it. I am just struggling to determine who that other $300M offer could be if not the Sox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peacock Wrestler Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, ChiSox59 said: I could see that. Dodgers are smart enough to do something unique. Like sign Harper and somehow make the Sox pay for it? "Hey, if you could spot us money to sign Harper we'll let you use our spring training facility" Edited February 27, 2019 by Peacock Wrestler 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mqr Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 Just now, Peacock Wrestler said: Like sign Harper and somehow make the Sox pay for it? We get Jake Peter in exchange for 50% of of Harper's salary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 2 minutes ago, ChiSox59 said: I don't necessarily think it is, and I've said all along I don't think Harper has interest in the signing with the Sox. I think they could offer 10/$330M and it could be the best offer by $30M and he won't take it. I am just struggling to determine who that other $300M offer could be if not the Sox. The old Nationals 300 offer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peacock Wrestler Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 1 minute ago, mqr said: We get Jake Peter in exchange for 50% of of Harper's salary THE Jake Peter? I don't think the Dodgers are that foolish. We'll have to eat at least 75% of the salary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 1 minute ago, southsider2k5 said: Who is Mike Rankin? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mqr Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 1 minute ago, southsider2k5 said: I have strong, STRONG doubts about what comes after the 'and' there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmarComing25 Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 Machado supposedly didn't want to play on the West Coast until the Padres offer was clearly the best. I think it's the same for Harper and Philly. He just hasn't gotten the offer he wants yet, IMO it's that simple. He'll go to the top bidder unless the offers are very close. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 3 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: Who is Mike Rankin? FutureSox writer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Kiebs13 Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 2 minutes ago, Quin said: FutureSox writer Has he been known to have any "sources" in the past? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 (edited) 1 minute ago, elwood5892 said: This changes everything. Harper will be a Dodger. If they let him go to SF the fanbase will crucify their FO Edited February 27, 2019 by Jack Parkman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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