Orlando Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 Jim Thome, wherever you are, we need you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjchinn15 Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 (edited) On 2/28/2019 at 4:50 PM, Lillian said: It seems implausible that Boras would let Harper be so transparent, as to purposely eliminate a suitor, in a competitive bidding situation. That would be so foolish. Even if he prefers another location, or team, why reject a bona fide contender for your services. Boras would surely want to string along the Sox front office, just to drive up the price to the eventual winners. Expand Just like Lozano did to Whitesox more or less, with that said perhaps Whitesox have learned and came out and said they won’t get into bidding war for Harper but are interested Edited February 28, 2019 by bjchinn15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 This guy called Machado to the Padres the day it happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 On 2/28/2019 at 4:46 PM, Balta1701 said: I just cannot see Scott Boras's side keeping any team with interest quiet for any reason. Expand Nope. He will use every team possible to drive up the price. If the Sox even called him, it would be know that the Sox have offered him the largest contract in team history. The Sox aren't even talking to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 On 2/28/2019 at 4:55 PM, Bad Hombre said: At some point this offseason Kaplan also said Sox wouldn’t be outbid for Machado, and we know how that turned out. Expand And I will continue to say maybe the Sox thought that and didn’t believe they were being outbid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 On 2/28/2019 at 4:56 PM, Lillian said: You can't possible believe that the Sox would even bring such a ridiculous and uncompetitive offer to the table. They aren't stupid and had to have known where the bidding would begin. The guy turned down $300 million from the Nationals, right at the beginning of the off season. Expand Except the actual value in current dollars was low $280’s...the biggest thing we would never cave on is 4-5 years for an opt out, or the biggest guaranteed FA contract in MLB history. Both are likely non-starters. And Harper’s way too competitive to sip it around for at least two years for a competitive team to catch up with him. If he’s hesitating over Philly with their bevy of win-now moves, we really don’t have even a remote puncher’s desperation 10th round KO of a chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 On 2/28/2019 at 4:58 PM, Orlando said: Jim Thome, wherever you are, we need you Expand He just signed on as Padres’ hitting coach... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 On 2/28/2019 at 4:56 PM, Lillian said: You can't possible believe that the Sox would even bring such a ridiculous and uncompetitive offer to the table. They aren't stupid and had to have known where the bidding would begin. The guy turned down $300 million from the Nationals, right at the beginning of the off season. Expand Deep down, yes I believe this front office would do that. I'm still waiting for a bit of evidence from them to prove me wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 On 2/28/2019 at 5:00 PM, Orlando said: This guy called Machado to the Padres the day it happened. Expand And the Dodgers would be simply elated to give him a 3 or even 2 year opt out...but likely 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shipps Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 On 2/28/2019 at 5:01 PM, fathom said: And I will continue to say maybe the Sox thought that and didn’t believe they were being outbid Expand Well Hahn did think there was a less than even chance that they would get Manny so they must’ve thought there was a chance they would be outbid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perfect Vision Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 FWIW, in this timeline: Phillies = White Sox Dodgers = Yankees Giants = Padres It's just all so familiar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 On 2/28/2019 at 5:00 PM, ptatc said: Nope. He will use every team possible to drive up the price. If the Sox even called him, it would be know that the Sox have offered him the largest contract in team history. The Sox aren't even talking to him. Expand By a factor of at least 4X. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxwinner Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 On 2/28/2019 at 5:04 PM, Perfect Vision said: FWIW, in this timeline: Phillies = White Sox Dodgers = Yankees Giants = Padres It's just all so familiar. Expand Except he's probably gonna go to the dodgers so Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 On 2/28/2019 at 5:04 PM, Perfect Vision said: FWIW, in this timeline: Phillies = White Sox Dodgers = Yankees Giants = Padres It's just all so familiar. Expand Except the Dodgers were always one of his top 2-3 choices. Maybe they also know something more about Kershaw’s injury? At any rate, SD was never even on Manny’s radar before the $175 million lowball offer came out publicly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 On 2/28/2019 at 5:03 PM, shipps said: Well Hahn did think there was a less than even chance that they would get Manny so they must’ve thought there was a chance they would be outbid. Expand And that’s where my theory of calling Lozano’s bluff and being wrong comes into place Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swingandalongonetoleft Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 On 2/28/2019 at 4:56 PM, Lillian said: You can't possible believe that the Sox would even bring such a ridiculous and uncompetitive offer to the table. Expand Absolutely would. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjchinn15 Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 If Dodgers land Harper, I will see you guys and gals in the Pederson to Whitesox discussion next only to see Pederson go to Indians smh. I blame Frank Thomas, Robin Ventura and Wilson Alvarez in the 90’s for drawing me into this team fandom. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiebs13 Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 On 2/28/2019 at 5:12 PM, bjchinn15 said: If Dodgers land Harper, I will see you guys and gals in the Pederson to Whitesox discussion next only to see Pederson go to Indians smh. I blame Frank Thomas, Robin Ventura and Wilson Alvarez in the 90’s for drawing me into this team fandom. Expand there is zero point for the white sox to trade anything for pederson if they don't sign one of the big fish this offseason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 On 2/28/2019 at 5:12 PM, bjchinn15 said: If Dodgers land Harper, I will see you guys and gals in the Pederson to Whitesox discussion next only to see Pederson go to Indians smh. I blame Frank Thomas, Robin Ventura and Wilson Alvarez in the 90’s for drawing me into this team fandom. Expand Why would we even want Joc now? And yes, he makes far too much sense for the Indians. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjchinn15 Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 On 2/28/2019 at 5:13 PM, Kiebs13 said: there is zero point for the white sox to trade anything for pederson if they don't sign one of the big fish this offseason. Expand Right zero sense I agree let delmonico and Palka play but this is the Whitesox we are talking and making sense isn’t common knowledge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swingandalongonetoleft Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 On 2/28/2019 at 5:12 PM, bjchinn15 said: If Dodgers land Harper, I will see you guys and gals in the Pederson to Whitesox discussion next only to see Pederson go to Indians smh. I blame Frank Thomas, Robin Ventura and Wilson Alvarez in the 90’s for drawing me into this team fandom. Expand Why? They'd probably just end up giving away the next Tatis and wind up with another Swisher. This org's talent evaluation is pure shit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HakunaMachado Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 Harper to dodgers means LA would need to move outfield pieces. Again, would this be the Joc trade or who else would they move? God the Sox biggest offseason move could be Joc... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 On 2/28/2019 at 5:18 PM, HakunaMachado said: Harper to dodgers means LA would need to move outfield pieces. Again, would this be the Joc trade or who else would they move? God the Sox biggest offseason move could be Joc... Expand Still a lot better than the biggest offseason move being Kelvin Herrera. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjchinn15 Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 How much would Whitesox have to add for Abreu : Bellinger swap if we took on salary like Ryu, probably to much I imagine since I believe I read they wouldn’t trade him for Realmuto but just for fun speculation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjchinn15 Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 On 2/28/2019 at 5:16 PM, Swingandalongonetoleft said: Why? They'd probably just end up giving away the next Tatis and wind up with another Swisher. This org's talent evaluation is pure shit. Expand I actually liked Swisher acquisition but Guillen managed him terribly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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