Dick Allen Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 Just now, wegner said: From the beginning, I did want Harper to be the main target so if we get him I will be over the moon happy. Yesterday was bad when it was announced that Manny signed with the Padres. The problem is that it got worse and quite frankly infuriating when Kenny Williams opened his month and said things that he should have known were going to piss off Sox fans. And then Hahn tried to spin it that the Sox offered a better deal when they did not to further piss Sox fans off. If the front office doesn't understand or like that people on Soxtalk are calling them out...tough shit!! What are you doing, Wegner? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hogan873 Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 5 minutes ago, Charlie Haeger's Knuckles said: As sad as it sounds, those trades/signings make the team a lot better. Yeah, unfortunately it doesn't make the team better enough. Plus, none of those guys are long-term improvements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Look at Ray Ray Run Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 17 minutes ago, shipps said: In a way I admire any Sox fans right now who can find a way to keep a positive perspective. I admit that I was really trying this morning. I can't do it, this is all just bad bad bad. For now and in the future. As of today I cant find it in me to cheer for them because I dont want this failure to ultimately be vindicated. Failing with Manny in this way is not okay with me and never will be. Even if it winds up being a shit show in San Diego with Manny it doesnt exclude Hahn and company from looking for a discount with all of these things considered at this point in the rebuild. And for the record, I am not going to try to bring down anyone that is okay with whats gone on the past 24 hours. I am just trying to get myself through this with talking it out and hoping that works. If Manny gets hurt or struggles a bit more like 2 years ago, it would vindicate them in a way but the principle would be the same. They can talk big about being in these in the future but until the white Sox win one, none of that matters. I'm also afraid that people are right... Sox have dumb pride and are out on Harper for that perception. 326 for Harper is around what you thought hed get. I just dont get it. Looks like they decided this off season that manny was the guy and that's even worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 (edited) Look all my no sauces are confident that the Sox are not going to get Harper. I am extremely confident signing Harpper will not happen. Because of my extreme no confidence, it obviously will happen. If only it worked that way. Edited February 20, 2019 by Soxbadger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 1 minute ago, wegner said: From the beginning, I did want Harper to be the main target so if we get him I will be over the moon happy. Yesterday was bad when it was announced that Manny signed with the Padres. The problem is that it got worse and quite frankly infuriating when Kenny Williams opened his month and said things that he should have known were going to piss off Sox fans. And then Hahn tried to spin it that the Sox offered a better deal when they did not to further piss Sox fans off. If the front office doesn't understand or like that people on Soxtalk are calling them out...tough shit!! Don't worry, we now have Yonder saying how amazing San Diego is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wegner Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 Just now, Dick Allen said: What are you doing, Wegner? I'm venting, Dick. Now let's go sign Bryce and I'll be doing a happy dance, haha. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
centerfieldsixers Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 machado in a Padres uniform in 4 years 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GordonsWalkupSong Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 2 minutes ago, wegner said: From the beginning, I did want Harper to be the main target so if we get him I will be over the moon happy. Yesterday was bad when it was announced that Manny signed with the Padres. The problem is that it got worse and quite frankly infuriating when Kenny Williams opened his month and said things that he should have known were going to piss off Sox fans. And then Hahn tried to spin it that the Sox offered a better deal when they did not to further piss Sox fans off. If the front office doesn't understand or like that people on Soxtalk are calling them out...tough shit!! This FO is a joke. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wegner Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 1 minute ago, fathom said: Don't worry, we now have Yonder saying how amazing San Diego is. Is Yonder trying to make his life more difficult here or is it his way of demanding a trade? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTC Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 17 minutes ago, ChiSox59 said: Not really. Machado has had over 600 plate appearances in 5/6 full seasons in the big leagues. Sure it could be manipulated if he's an albatross at 34 years old, but lets not act like 550 plate appearances is a tough bar to clear for a healthy player that will likely be well on their way to the HOF at age 34. But yah, I get why Machado preferred the $50M guaranteed - especially as a guy that I could definitely see coasting a bit now that he's signed the richest FA contact in the history of american sports. This was discussed on the radio yesterday afternoon. Last year there were something like eight 34-year old players in the ENTIRE league that had over 550 PA's. Now that we're out of the steroid era it's pretty much in the single digits every year (compound that with the fact that rosters are getting younger). As a player, to assume you're going to make 550 PA's in your mid thirties (even without team manipulation) is a fools bet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiebs13 Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 Hahn just said on am1000 they are not against opt outs. Bruce strikes again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 12 minutes ago, Jack Parkman said: Regardless of whether or not he sucks, they were going to make sure he didn't hit the number. It was funny money. If Manny Machado is still a really good player at 34, I dont think the Sox are manipulating his plate appearances. Obviously they would and they should if sucked at that point and they wanted him off the team. Again - I understand why MM took the $50M guranteed over the chance at an additional $20M. I'd probably do the same thing if I were him. But its not like he needed to finish top 3 in the MVP voting to get it. 550 plate appearances, while not something he is directly in control of, is not this enormous bar to clear. If he was still a good and productive player, with inflation, I am sure the Sox would have been happy to pay the $35M in 9 years. But it is what it is now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTC Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 5 minutes ago, centerfieldsixers said: machado in a Padres uniform in 4 years Really good episode of Brockmire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 1 minute ago, Kiebs13 said: Hahn just said on am1000 they are not against opt outs. Bruce strikes again. anything else of interest? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigHurt3515 Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 2 minutes ago, Kiebs13 said: Hahn just said on am1000 they are not against opt outs. Bruce strikes again. Why is nobody asking about Harper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiebs13 Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 1 minute ago, fathom said: anything else of interest? just a bunch of fluff per usual Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilJester99 Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 We tried so hard.. you should give us credit for trying right?? Fuck that 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTruth05 Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 3 minutes ago, Kiebs13 said: Hahn just said on am1000 they are not against opt outs. Bruce strikes again. The story keeps changing. They're all so full of it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Flash Tizzle Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 Just now, EvilJester99 said: We tried so hard.. you should give us credit for trying right?? Fuck that We’re proud of our trying, and especially proud of Reinsdorf - who opened the change purse and tried to try but couldn’t quite convince Machado our deal was better. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donny Lucy's Avocado Farm Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 14 minutes ago, hogan873 said: Yeah, unfortunately it doesn't make the team better enough. Plus, none of those guys are long-term improvements. "We tried" all joking aside, you are 100% right though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
almagest Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 3 minutes ago, Orlando said: Yeah I think they're really out. I don't think this is posturing. I think recent events have shown they aren't smart enough to do that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donny Lucy's Avocado Farm Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 Why would Harper want to come play a part in this clown show? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 1 minute ago, Charlie Haeger's Knuckles said: Why would Harper want to come play a part in this clown show? $400 million. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saufley Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 8 minutes ago, EvilJester99 said: We tried so hard.. you should give us credit for trying right?? Fuck that Do they ever wonder why the White Sox fan base is dwindling? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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