Bob Sacamano Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 (edited) 1 minute ago, Middle Buffalo said: The Sox just need to make the best offer if they are interested in Harper. Nothing cute. Offer highest AAV, most total, and opt out after 5 years. If Harper turns it down, Hahn can simply and factually state the Sox made the best offer and the player chose to play elsewhere. The Sox have lots going for them that should be attractive to Harper. If he doesn't want to play for them, it almost doesn't matter what the offer is. The Sox can't possibly fuck this up twice in one off-season, right?....Right?......RIGHT!? Edited February 26, 2019 by soxfan2014 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 4 minutes ago, GermanSoxFan said: If they ask "Is Pepsi okay?" in a restaurant, you say yes begrudgingly and forget about it 2 sips later. this is just not true at all. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lip Man 1 Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 4 minutes ago, soxfan2014 said: The Sox can't possibly fuck this up twice in one off-season, right?....Right?......RIGHT!? Sure they can and will 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peacock Wrestler Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 11 minutes ago, GermanSoxFan said: If they ask "Is Pepsi okay?" in a restaurant, you say yes begrudgingly and forget about it 2 sips later. False. Pepsi (White Sox) is far superior when compared to Coke (Cubs). If fact. some people prefer the taste. We could be in worse shape. We be RC Cola (Marlins) or Shasta (Rays)....Never would have thought I would use a pop metaphor for baseball. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 12 minutes ago, Peacock Wrestler said: False. Pepsi (White Sox) is far superior when compared to Coke (Cubs). If fact. some people prefer the taste. We could be in worse shape. We be RC Cola (Marlins) or Shasta (Rays)....Never would have thought I would use a pop metaphor for baseball. RC Cola has so many titles in such a short time no wonder they are royalty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mqr Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 44 minutes ago, KiwiSox said: If he wanted to be in Philly for what Philly wants to pay he'd be in Philly by now. FTFY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 38 minutes ago, GermanSoxFan said: If they ask "Is Pepsi okay?" in a restaurant, you say yes begrudgingly and forget about it 2 sips later. I ask for a Dr Pepper because Pepsi is gross. Looks like Bryce is looking for his Dr. Pepper too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonofaRoache Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 56 minutes ago, KiwiSox said: I think the Sox chances here are way better than people want to admit and all the evidence is there for those willing to see it. Lots seem happy to just mire themselves in sadness and dread when it comes to the team even though this Harper situation seems very favorable to the Sox. Favorable enough that it adds a lot of context to letting Machado walk. This is BS. None of us wanted to not sign Machado just so we could be sad, hence the anger from fans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moan4Yoan Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 I don’t expect the Sox to push very hard for Harper or to sign him, which is very sad. Afterall, just because you didn’t snag your primary target at a cheap price, why would you not jump at a chance to sign the other 26 year old stud that would change your organization completely on the field and off? It will be mind-blowing if word comes out after Harper signs, that the Sox weren’t secretly pushing hard for Harper and talking to evil Scott Boras. There are no better free agent options in the near future with Arenado off the board so Hahn no longer has a good excuse for hanging onto the salary instead of going hard for Harper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 2 hours ago, fathom said: Heyward scratched for personal reasons today. Something to keep an eye on. Didn’t even have to read who posted this... 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justBLAZE Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 How do you guys rank Arenado, Harper and Machado? There is a case to be made that Harper is 3/3 and Jerry will not break records for him if he should be valued lower than other two. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 55 minutes ago, Middle Buffalo said: The Sox just need to make the best offer if they are interested in Harper. Nothing cute. Offer highest AAV, most total, and opt out after 5 years. If Harper turns it down, Hahn can simply and factually state the Sox made the best offer and the player chose to play elsewhere. The Sox have lots going for them that should be attractive to Harper. If he doesn't want to play for them, it almost doesn't matter what the offer is. It’s going to require a 3 or 4 year opt out...he won’t be tethered to the Sox five prime career years if the rebuild continues to founder on the rocks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goober Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 They aren't going to sign him. Shack said slowly walking to the door, not sprinting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 2 minutes ago, justBLAZE said: How do you guys rank Arenado, Harper and Machado? There is a case to be made that Harper is 3/3 and Jerry will not break records for him if he should be valued lower than other two. Arenado has never put up a 10 fWAR season, is older and has question marks about how high his offensive upside is outside of Coors. Great player, but there are questions on how he would do in a huge market with the pressure to perform in the postseason ever year. (Same can be said for Harper and Machado after this offseason as well.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcq Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 6 hours ago, EloyJenkins said: yeah. what the shame is before this Arenado setting the 32.5 price per year...10/315 may have been potentially available with an opt out plan since the offers have been underwhelming. Bryce might have told Boras I will take the 10-15 million less to play in Chicago over Philly (because no star wants to live there). Now the 33 AAV is the LOWEST Boras will ever accept. I think players are pressured not to sign extensions in lieu of FA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 14 minutes ago, justBLAZE said: How do you guys rank Arenado, Harper and Machado? There is a case to be made that Harper is 3/3 and Jerry will not break records for him if he should be valued lower than other two. Machado, then Arenado, then Harper, as far as baseball talent goes. Harper, Machado, and then Arenado as far as cachet and putting this franchise on the map again. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Fireworks Man Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 (edited) Offer Harper 10/360 with an opt out after 5th year. That should be enough to cover his salary desire plus the "Sox Suck Tax." If another team beats that, be prepared to do whatever it takes. Edited February 26, 2019 by South Side Fireworks Man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lillian Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 (edited) Since you're trying to compare Arenado to Harper, it might be useful to look at Bryce's career stats, at Coors' Field: In 75 plate appearances (admittedly too small of a sample size): AVG .387 OBP .489 SLG .627 Interesting, I just checked and Arenado has very similar numbers, hitting at Washington's Park. Edited February 27, 2019 by Lillian 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 1 hour ago, Goober said: They aren't going to sign him. Shack said slowly walking to the door, not sprinting Then let's do the opposite. Once again queues up the Kamikaze pilot/nursing home episode from Curb Your Enthusiasm. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 Once Manny Machado signed with the Padres, it was believed the Phillies were the odds-on favorite to land Bryce Harper. As recently as Sunday, the word on the Phillies possibly landing Harper was optimism, but the Dodgers have entered the mix and we've been told not to forget about the Giants. Tuesday morning, MLB Network's Jon Heyman sent a handful of tweets saying others -- aside from the Phillies -- have offered over $300 million to Harper. He also pointed out that the Phillies have had their confidence in landing Harper dented, Harper is still seeking only long-term offers, and that perhaps the Dodgers were only granted a meeting with a short-term offer due to desired locale/stage. A lot of that seems like informed speculation, but the biggest takeaway continues to be the Phillies have not closed down a deal yet. With the Dodgers jumping in the mix and Harper still not a Phillie, there has to be some serious doubt as to Harper's interest in playing in Philadelphia. cbssports.com 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 14 hours ago, caulfield12 said: Did he really intend to create that impression, and why? If they weren’t willing to go beyond $250 million guaranteed for Machado, why would they suddenly reverse course and guarantee $300-350 million for Harper? Only Soxtalk can turn a fart into napalm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitesoxa6 Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 When will the money be spent that goddamn genius Rick Hahn was alluding to? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 (edited) 11 minutes ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said: Only Soxtalk can turn a fart into napalm. We might have another option, Danielle Gibson after hitting for the 4 homer "cycle" for Univ. of Arkansas, haha...I think it even might have happened in the first 4-5 innings or consecutive innings, pretty cool feat at any level. https://deadspin.com/arkansas-danielle-gibson-hit-a-damn-home-run-cycle-1832854144 https://arkansasrazorbacks.com/roster/danielle-gibson/ Edited February 27, 2019 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonofaRoache Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 5 minutes ago, Whitesoxa6 said: When will the money be spent that goddamn genius Rick Hahn was alluding to? That money will be spent so relax. We will sign 5 players with WARS of 1 to 40 million dollar deals and other trash. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moan4Yoan Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 (edited) 13 minutes ago, SonofaRoache said: That money will be spent so relax. We will sign 5 players with WARS of 1 to 40 million dollar deals and other trash. I was wondering if Hahn was including the $45 million he wasted this offseason into the $250 million intended for Machado that he promised the Sox would still spend. Get Harper now, Rick. No one wants Rendon next offseason as the consolation prize. Edited February 27, 2019 by Harper2Sox 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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