pcq Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 57 minutes ago, Middle Buffalo said: Yep. With the low salary overhead the next few years, Sox could have matched the Phillies dollars and years and front-loaded the contract. $25M this year $40M the next two would leave them an average of $20M the next ten years. When "the core" is ready to re-up, Haprer's contract wouldn't have hindered the team from making financial commitments in the future. I can't get over how dumb they are. After all that squirming Harp takes a low AAV for the long years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 10 minutes ago, pcq said: After all that squirming Harp takes a low AAV for the long years. He wanted the total dollar value to be higher than Giancarlo and sacrificed AAV and any opt outs to do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 MLB network just gave a number of 340,000 as the total ticket sales for the Phillies in 1 week after signing Harper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 The Phillies have posted signs at their team shop saying that they've run out of the letter "R". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 22 minutes ago, Balta1701 said: MLB network just gave a number of 340,000 as the total ticket sales for the Phillies in 1 week after signing Harper. It’s almost like investing in a legit star player would have partially paid for itself ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 And I will guarantee at some point this offseason KW or Hahn said (or at the very minimum thought) “lol...I’m not paying $300M for Harper when we have all these great OF prospects”. IMO, the Harper chase was simply a front to put some pressure on Machado, which is a shame since we’re seeing how Bryce’s drawing power could have greatly benefited the organization. Absolutely mind-boggling we never made an offer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Middle Buffalo Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 Debut with the Phillies on MLB network. Sox don't need that kind of attention. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 Just now, Middle Buffalo said: Debut with the Phillies on MLB network. Sox don't need that kind of attention. Shit, we already have two beat writers as it is. Wouldn’t want the clubhouse to be overflowing with media types after each game, that could really distract the team and limit our chances of winning the division next year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTruth05 Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 2 minutes ago, Middle Buffalo said: Debut with the Phillies on MLB network. Sox don't need that kind of attention. Well the franchise is in super stealth mode sooooooo...... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thad Bosley Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 5 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: And I will guarantee at some point this offseason KW or Hahn said (or at the very minimum thought) “lol...I’m not paying $300M for Harper when we have all these great OF prospects”. IMO, the Harper chase was simply a front to put some pressure on Machado, which is a shame since we’re seeing how Bryce’s drawing power could have greatly benefited the organization. Absolutely mind-boggling we never made an offer. Especially given the whole buzz around Jim Thome being dispatched to Vegas to talk to him. What was that all about then? Were the Sox only in this If in some very unlikely event Harper could be had at a substantially below market price? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 4 minutes ago, Fan O'Faust said: Especially given the whole buzz around Jim Thome being dispatched to Vegas to talk to him. What was that all about then? Were the Sox only in this If in some very unlikely event Harper could be had at a substantially below market price? Probably yeah, along with the added benefit of potential leverage with Machado. I don’t believe the Sox were ever serious about Bryce. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 1 hour ago, Fan O'Faust said: Especially given the whole buzz around Jim Thome being dispatched to Vegas to talk to him. What was that all about then? Were the Sox only in this If in some very unlikely event Harper could be had at a substantially below market price? The White Sox clearly thought they had a legitimate shot at Harper at a value WAY under his actual market price, that's why they put together such a "great presentation" or whatever Kenny described it as. When they actually started money, Boras simply said come back when you have a respectable offer or something along those lines, the White Sox then never did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 2 hours ago, Chicago White Sox said: Probably yeah, along with the added benefit of potential leverage with Machado. I don’t believe the Sox were ever serious about Bryce. Or Bryce was never serious about the Sox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 Just now, fathom said: Or Bryce was never serious about the Sox GMAB, if you put $330 million on the table he was serious about you. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thad Bosley Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 26 minutes ago, Balta1701 said: The White Sox clearly thought they had a legitimate shot at Harper at a value WAY under his actual market price, that's why they put together such a "great presentation" or whatever Kenny described it as. When they actually started money, Boras simply said come back when you have a respectable offer or something along those lines, the White Sox then never did. Operative word: Boras. To think Scott Boras of all agents, with his record, would deliver a contract to a client like Harper, a generational talent no less, for a “value WAY under his actual market price” is delusional thinking at its finest. Zero chance of that happening! Makes you wonder what other owners and front office management teams think of the Sox brass after all of this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thad Bosley Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 5 minutes ago, fathom said: Or Bryce was never serious about the Sox Was he serious about the Phillies before they slid a piece of paper across the table with the words “Three hundred thirty million” on it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 30 minutes ago, fathom said: Or Bryce was never serious about the Sox I think you’re overlooking that epic KW-Bryce head knod mid meeting. Dude was all in on the Sox if he had the money. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarava Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 This all is still depressing. Going to be ridiculously hard to win a World Series if these guys are too cheap to pay for premium free agents. Even if many of the prospects pan out (which they havent done so far). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turnin' two Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 13 minutes ago, Sarava said: This all is still depressing. Going to be ridiculously hard to win a World Series if these guys are too cheap to pay for premium free agents. Even if many of the prospects pan out (which they havent done so far). No joke. It is difficult when you have a competent front office and an owner that wants to win, and will spend 200 million to be competitive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saufley Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 39 minutes ago, Sarava said: This all is still depressing. Going to be ridiculously hard to win a World Series if these guys are too cheap to pay for premium free agents. Even if many of the prospects pan out (which they havent done so far). It's been difficult seeing and reading about how Machado and Harper were received at their spring training camps and their first at bats. The adulation from the fans. To wish that could have been us, if only we had a real front office and ownership group. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donny Lucy's Avocado Farm Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 Without reading through the 257 pages here... all I can think of to myself is Boras saying "The owner told me 'I have made enough money in my life, just tell me how much we need to get the player'" I can't imagine JR saying something so... careless.... to Scott Boras. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sockin Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 Don't want to re-open old wounds but Heyman was on the Score this morning and said the Sox got aggressive in their Harper pursuit after Machado signed and said they offered more money than they did Manny. They probably lost out on the years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 Tired of the word games. An aggressive offer is one in which they had put together an offer that was greater than other teams. They didn't put together an aggressive offer. They put together a conservative one. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 3 minutes ago, Sockin said: Don't want to re-open old wounds but Heyman was on the Score this morning and said the Sox got aggressive in their Harper pursuit after Machado signed and said they offered more money than they did Manny. They probably lost out on the years. I was about to complain about whoever reopened this thread of pain but this is actually useful info, thanks. Confirms my suspicions as well. We probably offered him something like 10/280 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOFHurt35 Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 Sox are going to be very thankful they missed out on Harper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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