Chicago White Sox Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 2 minutes ago, peavy44 said: If phillies offer manny machado $400 mil do white sox offer more or let him go. I don’t see them offering $400M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peavy44 Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 4 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: I don’t see them offering $400M. Phillies said they spend stupid money that is stupid money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 Just now, peavy44 said: Phillies said they spend stupid money that is stupid money. They already lost out on multiple free agents because they wouldn’t spend stupid money so who really knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yesterday333 Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 1 minute ago, peavy44 said: Phillies said they spend stupid money that is stupid money. Yeah but nobody knows what stupid money is to them... I think if it was that stupid he would be signed by now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 1 hour ago, ChiSox59 said: Well seems pretty obvious that Manny is going to go first. I don't see much reason for him to drag this on any further unless there are more teams legitimately in the running than the Sox, Phillies and Yankees. Only way I see this dragging on is if if the best offers are in the $250M-$270M range right now and teams aren't willing to negotiate against themselves quite yet. By all indications, Harper is not an option for the Yankees. Apparently Harper does not want to go to Philly. The Cubs and Dodgers are out unless they move a shit load of money the next few weeks. Who else is there? Obviously the line of suitors would be long if his price dropped significantly, but just assume he's getting something north of $325M over 10 years...who else is there? I think if the Sox get MM secured in the next week, the heat really goes up on the Cubs and Dodgers to try to move money, and if they can't, I think the Sox are in a fantastic position to get both IF JR is really willing to give out $700M to 2 players in one offseason. Braves, maybe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sockin Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 (edited) I really wonder if the position is a deciding factor and if the Sox would move Anderson to accommodate him. If they let him play short, have his brother-in-law and offer 35-37 mil I have a hard time seeing him going somewhere else. Edited December 20, 2018 by Sockin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peavy44 Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 Could we 6 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: They already lost out on multiple free agents because they wouldn’t spend stupid money so who really knows. Did they spend stupid money on CUTCH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roughneck Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 Just now, Eminor3rd said: Even if the Yankees/Dodgers/Cubs interest is overblown and the money isn’t there, I don’t see how there’s any way the Phillies let the Sox get both. Nothing they can do about it. Nicky Delmonico is our Dwyane Wade. They're both signing here. It'll be the Big 2.25. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 4 minutes ago, yesterday333 said: Yeah but nobody knows what stupid money is to them... I think if it was that stupid he would be signed by now. Their owner also cavaeted “not too stupid though” or something like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 Am I the only one that doesn't really want Machado if he insists on playing shortstop? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peavy44 Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 Can we just get one of them If not both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peavy44 Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 Where did chili Go. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roughneck Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 4 minutes ago, Whitesox27 said: Am I the only one that doesn't really want Machado if he insists on playing shortstop? Probably not. He's a top 3B defensively, but nothing special at short (although I suppose he could improve there with more play). But considering how much he whined about wanting to play SS and the fact that he forced that move in a contract year, I just assume that any team which signs him is going to do so knowing he's the everyday SS. Unless he *really* wants to go to the Yankees and signs there after being told Gregorious is the everyday DD once he's healthy, I don't think he's signing anywhere to be 3B. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Harold Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 7 minutes ago, peavy44 said: Where did chili Go. Back to work? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 9 minutes ago, Whitesox27 said: Am I the only one that doesn't really want Machado if he insists on playing shortstop? How bad was he there last year? I know the simple answer is bad but I don't know the advanced stats. His fielding percentage looks fine. But bad range? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross Gload Fan Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 58 minutes ago, Orlando said: Ok Sullivan To me, this is either a piece to bring down everyone before the letdown or an impatient crybaby piece aimed to guilt these guys for constantly overlooking us. Its a really bad look, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yesterday333 Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 1 minute ago, Roughneck said: Probably not. He's a top 3B defensively, but nothing special at short (although I suppose he could improve there with more play). But considering how much he whined about wanting to play SS and the fact that he forced that move in a contract year, I just assume that any team which signs him is going to do so knowing he's the everyday SS. Unless he *really* wants to go to the Yankees and signs there after being told Gregorious is the everyday DD once he's healthy, I don't think he's signing anywhere to be 3B. I think it was more he wanted to say can be a SS therefor make SS money going into his contract year. I do think he would prefer to play SS but if he was paid more to play 3b he would play there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 2 minutes ago, cjgalloway said: How bad was he there last year? I know the simple answer is bad but I don't know the advanced stats. His fielding percentage looks fine. But bad range? His Range was what really hurt him in the advance stats - it was the worst of any qualifying shortstop per FG out of 22. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFirebird Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 2 minutes ago, cjgalloway said: How bad was he there last year? I know the simple answer is bad but I don't know the advanced stats. His fielding percentage looks fine. But bad range? From what I have seen, he improved on defense when he went to the Dodgers. I think they positioned him differently. I believe I read this on The Athletic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 He's not a SS and I don't think any team is going to be spending 300+ million to have him devalue himself (and expose himself to more injuries) trying to play SS. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saufley Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 41 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: That is literally the worst write-up ever. Like he actually uses a random Stroman tweet for some reason even though Marcus said it was simply speculation. That’s literally the Tribune article I’m ever reading. I quit reading the cubune years ago! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 To me, the apprehension in regards to signing Machado to play SS is more about having to shift Tim Anderson to some other position than anything else. Don't get me wrong, by no means should TA7 prevent the Sox from going after Machado, but Anderson improved significantly defensively towards the end of last year. Signing Machado would force the Sox to either move Anderson to 2B, which would displace Moncada, or CF where he has no experience...and the Sox would still have no answer at 3B. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roughneck Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 13 minutes ago, yesterday333 said: I think it was more he wanted to say can be a SS therefor make SS money going into his contract year. I do think he would prefer to play SS but if he was paid more to play 3b he would play there. Maybe that's the case, but he said repeatedly that he loves playing SS and that's where he always wanted to play. The Orioles were horrible last year, but he still ruffled a lot of feathers around MLB for demanding a position change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 Machado is a third baseman. I don't think he has fooled anyone 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 16 minutes ago, Ross Gload Fan said: To me, this is either a piece to bring down everyone before the letdown or an impatient crybaby piece aimed to guilt these guys for constantly overlooking us. Its a really bad look, IMO. There is no white Sox sourcing to this whatsoever. It’s just Sullivan needing to write an offseason piece quickly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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