CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 3 minutes ago, beckham15 said: A big if there, unfortunately I don’t believe any of these reports, I think just a week or so ago there was reports that the Sox weren’t prepared to spend as big as people were expecting. All of these tweets and reports, including that one on the White Sox is posturing. We have seen it out there now from the Yanks , Phillies and the Sox about pulling back the reins. It could mean anything. It could be part of some MLB plan to collude but not collude "wink" just as a way for them to say the bidding is over or nearly over , don't expect any more or much higher offers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross Gload Fan Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 19 minutes ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said: Plus each agent has to know that if we sign one we're probably out on the 2nd one. So they have to keep that in mind when there aren't a lot of high bidders. I can imagine Hahn calling Boras and telling him hey just as a heads up we are going to sign Machado and right now you should consider us 90% out on Bryce. ABSOLUTELY NOT. DON'T YOU DARE TAKE MY CHRISTMAS DREAM OF BOTH AWAY FROM ME. Also, Merry Christmas lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 31 minutes ago, Ross Gload Fan said: ABSOLUTELY NOT. DON'T YOU DARE TAKE MY CHRISTMAS DREAM OF BOTH AWAY FROM ME. Also, Merry Christmas lol hah Merry Christmas to you too. But I didn't take it away. Notice I said 90% out on Harper which leaves the door slightly ajar for the purpose of saying we are out but not really out which tells Boras hurry your Bor-ass the hell up . We don't have all off season to play around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 50 minutes ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said: We have seen it out there now from the Yanks , Phillies and the Sox about pulling back the reins. It could mean anything. It could be part of some MLB plan to collude but not collude "wink" just as a way for them to say the bidding is over or nearly over , don't expect any more or much higher offers. If neither Harper nor Machado get a contract greater than Stanton's, then there could be a strike similar to 1994 on the horizon, where the players go on strike in August again and refuse to negotiate until winter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSpalehoseCWS Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 3 hours ago, Jack Parkman said: If neither Harper nor Machado get a contract greater than Stanton's, then there could be a strike similar to 1994 on the horizon, where the players go on strike in August again and refuse to negotiate until winter. I think the reality of a strike seems very real with or without the status of their contracts. However, I think both sides learned their lesson in the 90's regarding mid-season strikes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 7 hours ago, CWSpalehoseCWS said: I think the reality of a strike seems very real with or without the status of their contracts. However, I think both sides learned their lesson in the 90's regarding mid-season strikes. I think the sides have developed different priorities. What they're seeing right now is that the owners share of revenue is going up and the players share is going down, that's much more recent, the owners would rather shrink the whole pie than give back a portion of their slice, and the players would rather shrink the whole pie than continue having their slice get cut smaller. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 4 minutes ago, Balta1701 said: I think the sides have developed different priorities. What they're seeing right now is that the owners share of revenue is going up and the players share is going down, that's much more recent, the owners would rather shrink the whole pie than give back a portion of their slice, and the players would rather shrink the whole pie than continue having their slice get cut smaller. The only way this makes any difference is if the players agree to a cap where its agreed that the players get a percentage of the revenue. Until that time, the players get what is negotiated in the individual contracts. Maybe this will be the owners push during the next CBA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, ptatc said: The only way this makes any difference is if the players agree to a cap where its agreed that the players get a percentage of the revenue. Until that time, the players get what is negotiated in the individual contracts. Maybe this will be the owners push during the next CBA. It is going that way. For the first time, I think it actually makes sense that the players should agree to a cap and floor model. With only the Yankees and Dodgers exceeding the Luxury Tax, whatever that number is seems like a de facto cap for 28/30 of the teams anyway. The huge issue right now is that the stars that reach FA are getting all of the money, and the price of the average to above average player on the open market has gone down significantly. Edited December 24, 2018 by Jack Parkman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lip Man 1 Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 On 12/23/2018 at 11:52 PM, CWSpalehoseCWS said: I think the reality of a strike seems very real with or without the status of their contracts. However, I think both sides learned their lesson in the 90's regarding mid-season strikes. Kenley Jensen of the Dodgers has already been quoted as talking about the possibility of a strike and I recently read a story talking about the same thing because of the issues that are coming to a head between the MLBPA and the owners. And naturally, the next labor deal expires just at the time the Sox are supposed to be good. 1981, 1994 and ? It figures in a White Sox sort of way....doesn't it? ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 Just think. Yonder could be laying on the sales pitch right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whisox05 Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 1 hour ago, Quinarvy said: Just think. Yonder could be laying on the sales pitch right now. Hopefully bought him some white sox gear lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 4 hours ago, Lip Man 1 said: Kenley Jensen of the Dodgers has already been quoted as talking about the possibility of a strike and I recently read a story talking about the same thing because of the issues that are coming to a head between the MLBPA and the owners. And naturally, the next labor deal expires just at the time the Sox are supposed to be good. 1981, 1994 and ? It figures in a White Sox sort of way....doesn't it? ? I know I have brought that up in past post(s) . The CBA expires Dec.1, 2021. We could be very good by then , should be, if we hook a whale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross Gload Fan Posted December 25, 2018 Share Posted December 25, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted December 25, 2018 Share Posted December 25, 2018 23 minutes ago, Ross Gload Fan said: Based on this tweet and nothing else, I like the Sox odds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 25, 2018 Share Posted December 25, 2018 1 minute ago, Quinarvy said: Based on this tweet and nothing else, I like the Sox odds. Where’s this from Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross Gload Fan Posted December 25, 2018 Share Posted December 25, 2018 (edited) 2 minutes ago, fathom said: Where’s this from I got it from that Sox group peavy44 got us all into lol Edited December 25, 2018 by Ross Gload Fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxbrad Posted December 25, 2018 Share Posted December 25, 2018 3 minutes ago, Quinarvy said: Based on this tweet and nothing else, I like the Sox odds. Based on what Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted December 25, 2018 Share Posted December 25, 2018 Heyman himself hasn't tweeted any free agent related news today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elwood5892 Posted December 25, 2018 Share Posted December 25, 2018 The tweet was from a guy with 37 followers. Wouldn’t look too much into it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whisox05 Posted December 25, 2018 Share Posted December 25, 2018 1 minute ago, SouthWallace said: Heyman himself hasn't tweeted any free agent related news today. But heyman did tweet a couples days ago that machado won't pick his team till after the new year which this is referring to. Tho can't find this actually tweet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross Gload Fan Posted December 25, 2018 Share Posted December 25, 2018 5 minutes ago, aeichhor said: But heyman did tweet a couples days ago that machado won't pick his team till after the new year which this is referring to. Tho can't find this actually tweet. I just assumed this was widely spread info? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted December 25, 2018 Share Posted December 25, 2018 21 minutes ago, whitesoxbrad said: Based on what This tweet and nothing else. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! Posted December 25, 2018 Share Posted December 25, 2018 Is it true that Alonso and Manny are together right now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross Gload Fan Posted December 25, 2018 Share Posted December 25, 2018 3 minutes ago, Whitesox27 said: Is it true that Alonso and Manny are together right now? Yes. Probably spooning. Maybe even forking. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted December 25, 2018 Share Posted December 25, 2018 Not sure where the previous screen grab is from but I found this. Not exactly buying it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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