caulfield12 Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 4 minutes ago, Whitesox27 said: So can we all agree that Dan Clark's tweet is a load of crap? How can anyone know until the first week of January is over with no signing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 13 minutes ago, Whitesox27 said: So can we all agree that Dan Clark's tweet is a load of crap? Would have felt much better if there was anything suggesting it was false today 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 35 minutes ago, Whitesox27 said: So can we all agree that Dan Clark's tweet is a load of crap? In 24 hours literally no one has been willing to go on record to say that. Not even a qualified "As of now..." type of tweet has been made to disqualify it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxFanMike Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 23 minutes ago, fathom said: Would have felt much better if there was anything suggesting it was false today There hasn't been anything suggesting it was true either... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox1917 Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 Honestly, if we're out on both Harper and Machado, I want the Sox to get in on Keuchel. He's a guy who can at least anchor the rotation for the next few years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dam8610 Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 15 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: In 24 hours literally no one has been willing to go on record to say that. Not even a qualified "As of now..." type of tweet has been made to disqualify it. Nor has anyone gone on record to confirm it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
black jack Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 16 minutes ago, ChiSox1917 said: Honestly, if we're out on both Harper and Machado, I want the Sox to get in on Keuchel. He's a guy who can at least anchor the rotation for the next few years. Now I want ALL THREE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 24 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: In 24 hours literally no one has been willing to go on record to say that. Not even a qualified "As of now..." type of tweet has been made to disqualify it. I will say this, this could also just be a perfect storm of it being the holidays and dan Clark not being big enough to respond to. Typically even a lower level guy making a claim like this would cause a huge stir. This has been incredibly muted considering it’s biggest story of offseason. I think holidays and him not being a tier big enough that their audience knows about it plays into it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 9 hours ago, Whitesox27 said: I personally don't think Pollock or Moustakas are the long term answers either, but I'd much rather have them than Engel and Yolmer if push came to shove. And therein lies the rub. You see a lot of complaining here that the Sox are an undesirable team because they are so bad and that's why the whales won't come here. Then you see if neither whale signs here then stay the course. In other words suck for another year thereby being in the same situation when it comes to getting FA's. It's a classic Catch 22. In order to be attractive to FA's we must be good but if we can't sign FA's then suck again and continue to be unattractive to FA's. And round and round we go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmy U Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 1 hour ago, ChiSox1917 said: Honestly, if we're out on both Harper and Machado, I want the Sox to get in on Keuchel. He's a guy who can at least anchor the rotation for the next few years. Not me. Doesn’t strike anyone out. Big contract for a non TOS, seems like huge potential for a lefty James Shields signing and we probably would not be lucky enough to get another team to bail us out of it the way Rick and Kenny bailed out the Padres. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 10 hours ago, soxfan2014 said: I give you a trophy for your comment about framing. Ha damn I should've got tons of trophies then. I've been a thorn in many's sides with my similar comments on framing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted December 30, 2018 Author Share Posted December 30, 2018 32 minutes ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said: And therein lies the rub. You see a lot of complaining here that the Sox are an undesirable team because they are so bad and that's why the whales won't come here. Then you see if neither whale signs here then stay the course. In other words suck for another year thereby being in the same situation when it comes to getting FA's. It's a classic Catch 22. In order to be attractive to FA's we must be good but if we can't sign FA's then suck again and continue to be unattractive to FA's. And round and round we go. I don’t want to suck next year, but I don’t want to commit big dollars to B free agents at this point in time. And while I wouldn’t be against Moustakas, it would have to be on a one year deal. Giving him four years would be the definition of insanity IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 8 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: I don’t want to suck next year, but I don’t want to commit big dollars to B free agents at this point in time. And while I wouldn’t be against Moustakas, it would have to be on a one year deal. Giving him four years would be the definition of insanity IMO. One year stop-gap signings are completely worthless for this team. It’s why Jose Martinez is so much more intriguing than EE. All I know is I will have a hard time forgiving Hahn if he goes two straight offseasons without adding someone who should be a contributor in 2021. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 6 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: I don’t want to suck next year, but I don’t want to commit big dollars to B free agents at this point in time. And while I wouldn’t be against Moustakas, it would have to be on a one year deal. Giving him four years would be the definition of insanity IMO. Oh I understand but then when Arenaado and Rendon and all the whale pitchers become available next year how do we entice them because we suck and aren't competitive ? I remember my very earliest posts on Machado and Harper were arguing we wouldn't be a destination because we are so bad and all I kept hearing is it's all about the money. I came around to thinking we had a chance because of the money and the approach to making Machado feel at home here. So now all we hear is maybe it's not all just about the money with those 2. Do we go into next off season after sucking still thinking it's all about the money or was the Machado and Harper sagas just different from most FA's ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 Just now, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said: Oh I understand but then when Arenaado and Rendon and all the whale pitchers become available next year how do we entice them because we suck and aren't competitive ? I remember my very earliest posts on Machado and Harper were arguing we wouldn't be a destination because we are so bad and all I kept hearing is it's all about the money. I came around to thinking we had a chance because of the money and the approach to making Machado feel at home here. So now all we hear is maybe it's not all just about the money with those 2. Do we go into next off season after sucking still thinking it's all about the money or was the Machado and Harper sagas just different from most FA's ? I do think they are a bit different than most free agents. Harper cares more about his brand than probably any other player, while Manny has supposedly always wanted to play for the Yankees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 1 minute ago, fathom said: One year stop-gap signings are completely worthless for this team. It’s why Jose Martinez is so much more intriguing than EE. All I know is I will have a hard time forgiving Hahn if he goes two straight offseasons without adding someone who should be a contributor in 2021. And you will have a hard time forgiving Hahn for not getting a whale because we suck at baseball but yet if we suck next year you still expect him to add when it will be the exact same sucking team only with a better idea of where the prospects are in their development. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 I hope those who believe Dan Clark are enjoying his total meltdown (much of which has been deleted) on Twitter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted December 30, 2018 Author Share Posted December 30, 2018 1 minute ago, Jose Abreu said: I hope those who believe Dan Clark are enjoying his total meltdown (much of which has been deleted) on Twitter Do you mind elaborating? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 1 minute ago, Chicago White Sox said: Do you mind elaborating? Just a lot of whining about how the big guys aren't gonna give him any credit when Machado signs with the Yankees, and how he's putting his entire reputation on the line as if we need to commend him for it 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted December 30, 2018 Author Share Posted December 30, 2018 1 minute ago, Jose Abreu said: Just a lot of whining about how the big guys aren't gonna give him any credit when Machado signs with the Yankees, and how he's putting his entire reputation on the line as if we need to commend him for it I just saw the bow tie tweet...I personally think this guy is full of shit or at a minimum exaggerating what he heard, but I know I’m in the minority on that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 3 hours ago, Whitesox27 said: So can we all agree that Dan Clark's tweet is a load of crap? Unfortunately we can’t. Just gonna have to wait this one out. Shouldn’t be long now. Go out and party. Be safe. Maybe we’ll get a gift. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxFanMike Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 (edited) 44 minutes ago, Jose Abreu said: I hope those who believe Dan Clark are enjoying his total meltdown (much of which has been deleted) on Twitter He's has a lot of confidence, I'll give him that. But every ounce of his credibility is gone if he gets this wrong. Edited December 30, 2018 by Whitesox27 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 lol what Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTruth05 Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Quinarvy said: lol what I’ve never rooted harder for a “source” to be wrong, what a clown. Edited December 30, 2018 by TheTruth05 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 3 hours ago, Whitesox27 said: There hasn't been anything suggesting it was true either... It's possible it was leaked to him by someone directly and not others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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