steveno89 Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 19 minutes ago, The Sir said: 2B Moncada 3B Machado DH Abreu RF Harper LF Jimenez 1B Alonso C Castillo SS Anderson CF Engel (we’d have to fix this with literally anyone else, though) The pitching staff is still nowhere close to being playoff ready even if we had that lineup with a better CF option. Bullpen is filled with questions outside of Colome and rotation is not playoff caliber. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 3 minutes ago, Whitesox27 said: Getting both Harper and Machado is obviously the dream scenario, but there's probably like a 1% chance of that happening. Give me one and I'll be absolutely ecstatic. It’s higher than that. 1/3 * 1/3 = ~11%. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTSox22 Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 14 minutes ago, fathom said: and you look around for quality #2 starter in package headlined by Madrigal I'd shop Moncada over Madrigal. Think Madrigal is that glue guy. He could be the Pedroia type. And yes, same height. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 2 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: There is still some pretty decent holes there, but still I think the 60-70 million needed to do that would be the immediate problem. Harper + Machado + Keuchel for only 60-70? I think that's 80-90. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 Just now, TTSox22 said: I'd shop Moncada over Madrigal. Think Madrigal is that glue guy. He could be the Pedroia type. And yes, same height. No way am I trading a guy with Moncada’s tools after just one full season. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Hibbard Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 Just now, Chicago White Sox said: It’s higher than that. 1/3 * 1/3 = ~11%. I like the way you think, but the conditional probabilities of getting both are not equivalent to the standalone probabilities of acquiring one. There's a very real chance that getting one means the White Sox simply no longer pursue the other. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 36 minutes ago, Orlando said: I know everyone jokes about Bob Nightengale, but when was the last time he was wrong about something Sox related? That is the only info I would trust from him. Nightengale was particularly bad during the 2016 trade lead-up. Multiple times it seemed he would write stuff like "sox not entertaining offers for sale" and then five minutes later he'd be traded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 1 minute ago, southsider2k5 said: There is still some pretty decent holes there, but still I think the 60-70 million needed to do that would be the immediate problem. They only have $50M on the books this year. If they spent an additional 70 M to get that done, that is still only a 120M payroll which is modest these days. It is absolutely doable as long as the Keuchel and Pollock contracts come off the books when some of the guys start to get expensive in Arb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 Just now, Balta1701 said: Harper + Machado + Keuchel for only 60-70? I think that's 80-90. The post I quoted was Machado, Keuchel, and Pollock Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveno89 Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 Just now, Balta1701 said: Harper + Machado + Keuchel for only 60-70? I think that's 80-90. Adding Keuchel for roughly $80 million on a 4 year deal would push spending totally to the brink for us I feel. We would have at least $90 million committed long term to just three players, which isn't ideal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 1 minute ago, Chicago White Sox said: No way am I trading a guy with Moncada’s tools after just one full season. Not unless I got a big timer back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GermanSoxFan Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 (edited) I can't wait for the pendulum to swing back tomorrow when Machado likes the Phillie Phanatic's MySpace site. Edited January 3, 2019 by GermanSoxFan 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 10 minutes ago, peavy44 said: I am not in the group numb nuts. Bye bye ??♂️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxFanMike Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 5 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: It’s higher than that. 1/3 * 1/3 = ~11%. There might be "mystery teams" though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
he gone. Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 Soxtalk is either the Fox News or CNN of reporting White Sox news depending on which side of the fence you are on. NYY sources/rumors : FAKE NEWS!! Nightengale rumors about any other team: FAKE NEWS! Nightengale rumor about the Sox offering a contract: PANDAMONIUM!! Which by the way, not to be a buzz kill..... what did you expect... us to meet with him and not actually make a formal offer? And if it is really just 7 years? That's not going to get it done... Before Christmas I said Machado 50%, Harper 15% and both 7.5% Today I say Machado 30%, Harper 10% and both at 3%. I may be the only one not drinking the sauce here... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GermanSoxFan Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 4 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: No way am I trading a guy with Moncada’s tools after just one full season. Yeah the Sox should only trade him when other teams pay the #1 prospect in all of baseball price for him. Selling him for pennies on the dollar would be incredibly stupid. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sockin Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 49 minutes ago, SoxBlanco said: Pardon my ignorance, but who is bucket/macsandz? I see no one answered you but bucket has legitimate connections to the team. He's had signings and trades before they've happened over the years. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 2 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: No way am I trading a guy with Moncada’s tools after just one full season. Word! I was all for the Madrigal pick but there's zero chance I keep him over Moncada. Moncada has tools that Madrigal will never have. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 2 minutes ago, Greg Hibbard said: I like the way you think, but the conditional probabilities of getting both are not equivalent to the standalone probabilities of acquiring one. There's a very real chance that getting one means the White Sox simply no longer pursue the other. No doubt and honestly I was just fucking around, but I do think there is a case for pursuing both if you can land them for about $75M/year. With our new TV deal, that could give us a good $100M to work with to fill out the rest of the roster and potentially even more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 Guff saying Sox getting both is not likely Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GermanSoxFan Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 What is k0na doing these days? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 4 minutes ago, hi8is said: Bye bye ??♂️ No its " bye bye bye " ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 Just now, GermanSoxFan said: What is k0na doing these days? checked his twitter, nothing to see Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 1 minute ago, fathom said: Guff saying Sox getting both is not likely I think that was always a tweet that could be read in a few ways. Most conservative reading was that they were interested in both of them individually, not as a package. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 1 minute ago, fathom said: Guff saying Sox getting both is not likely I think it’s about time we accept the fact that while Guff is a solid podcaster, his abilities as an insider leave a lot to be desired. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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