ChiSox59 Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 1 minute ago, soxfan49 said: They list the Cubs, Cardinals, Dodgers, Nationals, Padres and Twins as a few options. Nats, Cubs, Cardinals and even Dodgers don't make much sense. Always thought teams like the Padres, Twins, Brewers, and Angels could jump in if the market tanked that much. But I don't really see any of those teams being a player at the $250M range except for maybe the Padres. Braves would have made some sense before the Donaldson signing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxfan49 Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 Padres make sense for either guy, really, and I think @raBBit brought them up for Harper. They have the best farm system in baseball according to most and they have little to no payroll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxfan49 Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 Just now, ChiSox59 said: Nats, Cubs, Cardinals and even Dodgers don't make much sense. Always thought teams like the Padres, Twins, Brewers, and Angels could jump in if the market tanked that much. But I don't really see any of those teams being a player at the $250M range except for maybe the Padres. Braves would have made some sense before the Donaldson signing. 2 minutes ago, KnightsOnMintSt said: Cubs would be surprising, especially if they don't have the money for Harper. Cardinals always seem like a team to watch out for. I dont see the Dodgers unless they plan on moving Turner and insisting that Machado plays 3B. I am under the impression that Bryce will return to the Nationals, and they already gave Corbin a bunch of money. I dont see the Padres or Twins unless they throw out offers you simply just cannot refuse. 3 minutes ago, fathom said: Bruce's article yesterday mentioned that agent sources believed there might be a 4th team. Don't kill the messenger. I'm simply telling you all what the tweet said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 Just now, soxfan49 said: Padres make sense for either guy, really, and I think @raBBit brought them up for Harper. They have the best farm system in baseball according to most and they have little to no payroll. Really no reason for the Twins not to be in the race for either guy as well. They're in a similar payroll situation to the White Sox, though their young players will be hitting arb a couple years before ours. Would be a deviation from their norm to be in play for major FA, but obviously same can be said for the Sox. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 1 minute ago, soxfan49 said: Don't kill the messenger. I'm simply telling you all what the tweet said. Lol, no messenger being killed. Just looking for something to discuss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 I don't really buy that as anything more than someone in an auction draft who thinks the bids are too low and makes sure to drive up the price a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 The entire tweet is based off of Bruce's article from yesterday. The same article that said Sox gaining momentum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FT35 Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 14 minutes ago, soxfan49 said: They list the Cubs, Cardinals, Dodgers, Nationals, Padres and Twins as a few options. Phones probably started ringing for his agent when the rumor of our supposed "best" offer being closer to $200M hit the air waves. That would open the door for a lot of teams to add a superstar of Machado's caliber on a long-term mega deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lillian Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 1 hour ago, Chicago White Sox said: I don’t mean to be rude, but SoxFest will have no bearing on a transaction of this magnitude. And if we do in fact land Manchado, he will be the sole focus of the press conference. I was merely referring to when it might be announced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
he gone. Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 4th team "entering" the fray as well as Phillies "re-submitting" and offer means this is close to an end. I'm guessing we'll hear one last scary Yankees rumor about how they're willing to go 8 years now. I think this is actually all good news for the Sox. Basically trying to get them to bump up one more year or a few more million on the AAV before signing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 4 minutes ago, BrianAnderson said: 4th team "entering" the fray as well as Phillies "re-submitting" and offer means this is close to an end. I'm guessing we'll hear one last scary Yankees rumor about how they're willing to go 8 years now. I think this is actually all good news for the Sox. Basically trying to get them to bump up one more year or a few more million on the AAV before signing. Which it seems like the Sox can do so we should be good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightsOnMintSt Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 I really believe that the White Sox have the top offer. I think the Yankees are trying to get a gauge on how likely they think it is that Machado would sign with us. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 I hope we all have to apologize to Bruce after the Sox sign Machado this week for 7 years lol 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFirebird Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 5 minutes ago, BrianAnderson said: 4th team "entering" the fray as well as Phillies "re-submitting" and offer means this is close to an end. I'm guessing we'll hear one last scary Yankees rumor about how they're willing to go 8 years now. I think this is actually all good news for the Sox. Basically trying to get them to bump up one more year or a few more million on the AAV before signing. I want to believe this to be true, but it scares me.....because not sure how I will handle a big let down at this point. I have let my hopes get to high already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 3 minutes ago, BFirebird said: I want to believe this to be true, but it scares me.....because not sure how I will handle a big let down at this point. I have let my hopes get to high already. Yeah. My hopes have gotten up so high on this that anyone other than Manny at 3B on opening day is a huge letdown (sorry, Yolmer). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greek-konerko Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 Rabbit tweeted last night that wednesday was the day sox used to announce deals when kw was gm. And hinted something might happen today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxFanMike Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 (edited) 27 minutes ago, Sockin said: Mystery account on reddit that said Sox are signing Manny today. Seems kinda far-fetched that a random Reddit user would know about a deal of this magnitude before anyone else, but hey, I guess you never know. Edited January 9, 2019 by Whitesox27 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxBlanco Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 Do agents tell straight-up specific lies, or is it more general posturing? For example, if we have an offer of 7 for $250 on the table, would Lozano try to get us to increase the offer by saying something like, "Philadelphia has an offer on the table of 7 years for $280. You guys willing to go that high?" (even if no such Philadelphia offer existed) Or is it more of a vague lie, such as, "Philadelphia has you guys beat right now. What can you increase it to?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sockin Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Whitesox27 said: Seems kinda far-fetched that a random Reddit user would know about a deal of this magnitude before anyone else, but hey, I guess you never know. Two people on reddit broke the Quintana trade the day before it happened. On the Sox sub. Edited January 9, 2019 by Sockin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 2 minutes ago, SoxBlanco said: Do agents tell straight-up specific lies, or is it more general posturing? For example, if we have an offer of 7 for $250 on the table, would Lozano try to get us to increase the offer by saying something like, "Philadelphia has an offer on the table of 7 years for $280. You guys willing to go that high?" (even if no such Philadelphia offer existed) Or is it more of a vague lie, such as, "Philadelphia has you guys beat right now. What can you increase it to?" Both could be reasonable. If you were trying to negotiate a lower price on a car you might do the exact same thing - say that you had a better offer on another car, say an exact price in some cases, to see how a dealer responds. In the end, the salesperson's job is to find a price you'll agree to. If you were asked that by MM, your appropriate response is "If we were willing to do this, would you be willing to agree today", and until you get them to say that there's a deal they will sign you don't make another official offer. The car salesperson should say "If I can get my manager to do that, can we put you in this car today". 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 5 minutes ago, Greek-konerko said: Rabbit tweeted last night that wednesday was the day sox used to announce deals when kw was gm. And hinted something might happen today No he didn’t hint. He said he doesn’t necessarily think it happens tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 2 minutes ago, Sockin said: Two people on reddit broke the Quintana trade the day before it happened. On the Sox sub. Katyperry is in that Reddit thread and didn’t confirm anything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, fathom said: No he didn’t hint. He said he doesn’t necessarily think it happens tomorrow. Ya, I don't want to put words in Brian's mouth but I think he was literally just making a statement, not hinting at anything. Sometimes people look too far into his tweets just hoping for something that's not really there. Edited January 9, 2019 by Rowand44 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 Just now, fathom said: Katyperry is in that Reddit thread and didn’t confirm anything Wasn't his source in the cubs f.o.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 Just now, Rowand44 said: Ya, I don't want to put words in Brian's mouth but I think sometimes people look too far into his tweets just hoping for something that's not really there. Yeah it was either he really did know something or it was his own wishful thinking that something could happen today (as is should be wrapping up soon). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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