Saufley Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 Last Manny post 46 minutes ago. Seems like this has been dragging on forever. These guys are really playing hardball! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxFanMike Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 So we're almost 11,000 posts into this thread and we don't know any more now than we did 2 months ago. Wonderful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lillian Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 One might ask why the Phillies would not go ahead and make an offer above the rumored Sox bid. The answer could be that, realizing they will not win a bidding war with the Sox, they believe that it is in their best interest to not have Manny's contract be so expensive that it would negatively impact their negotiations with Harper. Whatever Manny gets, Boras will demand more for Harper. The less he gets, the more that helps the Phillies in their negotiations with Harper. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 4 hours ago, OmarComing25 said: Tim Anderson 1st half 2018: 40.6% O-Swing%, 71.3% Z-Swing%, 42.3% Zone% Tim Anderson 2nd half 2018: 39.6% O-Swing%, 74.6% Z-Swing%, 43.2% Zone% Going by those metrics his plate discipline actually slightly improved in the 2nd half, I'm guessing the 6% 1st half walk rate was just a circumstance of random luck rather than an actual change in approach. Good stuff. I was looking for those splits before I made my post, but couldn’t find them on Fangraphs. Just seems crazy for it to be random luck, but honestly I have no other explanation so I’m sure you’re right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
black jack Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 10 minutes ago, Lillian said: One might ask why the Phillies would not go ahead and make an offer above the rumored Sox bid. The answer could be that, realizing they will not win a bidding war with the Sox, they believe that it is in their best interest to not have Manny's contract be so expensive that it would negatively impact their negotiations with Harper. Whatever Manny gets, Boras will demand more for Harper. The less he gets, the more that helps the Phillies in their negotiations with Harper. There could be a bit of collusion. I won't bid crazy on Bryce if you don't bid crazy on Manny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lillian Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 (edited) 12 minutes ago, black jack said: There could be a bit of collusion. I won't bid crazy on Bryce if you don't bid crazy on Manny. Yes, but it wouldn't even require collusion. Both teams must realize that it is not in each of their interests to recklessly bid on both players, when they think that they are only going to be able to afford one. If the Phillies have targeted Harper, and the Sox have their focus on Machado, it makes sense to not escalate the market value, for either one, as each player will compare his deal, with the other. It wouldn't be necessary to discuss this between them, as it would be inherently understood. Edited January 24, 2019 by Lillian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSpalehoseCWS Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 8 minutes ago, black jack said: There could be a bit of collusion. I won't bid crazy on Bryce if you don't bid crazy on Manny. Certainly can give that appearance. The writing is on the wall that both these teams chances of landing one or the other are extremely high - feels just like J.D. Martinez last offseason.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmarComing25 Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 28 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: Good stuff. I was looking for those splits before I made my post, but couldn’t find them on Fangraphs. Just seems crazy for it to be random luck, but honestly I have no other explanation so I’m sure you’re right. Yeah those splits weren’t on the player page so I had to go to the leaderboards and play with the filters there to find them. Does seem bizarre that it would be random, I was hoping to find something more definitive there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItsCalledComiskey Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 2 hours ago, Orlando said: I think Manny's post season is an easy scapegoat for an owner who just doesn't want to pony up what he's really worth. Manny Machado for 10 yrs 300 million and everything less than that is fair in my opinion. Just because a few players have massive contracts doesn't mean that any player is worth that amount. Also, every team that signed those players have all been handicapped and regretted signing those high contracts, except maybe the Angles, who I have yet to hear or see anything publically that they regret it or have looked to trade him. Doesn't mean they don't though because look at his lack of production recently. Interestingly enough, the Angles were a mystery team for Pujols. https://www.sbnation.com/mlb/2017/8/31/16230242/albert-pujols-angels-contract-yeeps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 Abreu was part of the Machado pitch. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross Gload Fan Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 I really miss the nights full of false gossip and tweets. This is just a sad state of affairs now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elwood5892 Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 17 minutes ago, Ross Gload Fan said: I really miss the nights full of false gossip and tweets. This is just a sad state of affairs now. Even the fake twitter sources are kinda done with this all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Beast Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 6 hours ago, CBJ03 said: Asked around. Looks like they are still trying to finalize times. Just heard opening ceremonies could be pushed to 4. I do know there will be a panel with Daryl Boston, Zach Collins, and Kopech. There will also be one with Cease, Madrigal, and the last name is escaping me at the moment. 10 am on Saturday is when fans with balls get to ask Hahn some legitimate questions instead of some casual questions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSpalehoseCWS Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 3 minutes ago, elwood5892 said: Even the fake twitter sources are kinda done with this all. Oh, I'm sure we'll get some during this weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bschmaranz Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 2 minutes ago, CWSpalehoseCWS said: Oh, I'm sure we'll get some during this weekend. We better dammit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 2 minutes ago, bschmaranz said: We better dammit Fuck that. Don't need the fake sources. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bschmaranz Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 Just now, soxfan2014 said: Fuck that. Don't need the fake sources. Don't speak for me, you're not my dad! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 11 minutes ago, elwood5892 said: Even the fake twitter sources are kinda done with this all. There are a few tonight but I'm gonna refrain from posting them since they're from accounts with 0 followers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vote4Pedro Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 11 minutes ago, CWSpalehoseCWS said: Oh, I'm sure we'll get some during this weekend. Yeah this weekend there are going to be all sorts of craziness being reported. How many manny sightings do you think we will see/hear of Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Beast Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 4 minutes ago, beckham15 said: Yeah this weekend there are going to be all sorts of craziness being reported. How many manny sightings do you think we will see/hear of We better get something this weekend based on what rabbit said the other day... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxBlanco Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 1 minute ago, The Beast said: We better get something this weekend based on what rabbit said the other day... Wasn’t that about the potential Joc trade? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 14 minutes ago, Jose Abreu said: There are a few tonight but I'm gonna refrain from posting them since they're from accounts with 0 followers Share them...at this point I could use a good laugh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Beast Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 3 minutes ago, SoxBlanco said: Wasn’t that about the potential Joc trade? Yes but he made it seem like there were more details about it so maybe it is a coordinated move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 Just now, Chicago White Sox said: Share them...at this point I could use a good laugh. I'll link to it without embedding so as to not scare anyone. ***this is fake*** https://twitter.com/jmrobertson143/status/1088260669504438278 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 3 minutes ago, Jose Abreu said: I'll link to it without embedding so as to not scare anyone. ***this is fake*** https://twitter.com/jmrobertson143/status/1088260669504438278 Lol...watch this dude be the next wetbutt. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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