Bob Sacamano Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 This thread needs a new title. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarava Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 36 minutes ago, shipps said: I’ve been saying that the Sox should at least be engaging with Harpers people publicly to gain leverage in the Manny negotiations. They can use that. Tell Manny they only have room to sign one and they are getting closer with Harper. They kind of blew the opportunity to do that when they signed all of Mannys boys to show their commitment to him. Interestingly, Hahn did mentioned yesterday that it doesn't make sense to sign both whales. I wondered if he was just speaking frankly, or if that was a message to one of them. Or maybe a little of both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EloyJenkins Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 New title: Lozanos California Dreaming? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 1 hour ago, tray said: What do you make of the reported Hahn quote that Machado's agent has "not responded in kind." ? I think the White Sox are at least entitled to a counter-proposal from Lozano given all of the effort that the organization has gone to in order to attract Manny and his family to Chicago. If Lozano is just using the White Sox to leverage a higher offer, we will all be pissed off along with the White Sox ownership and management. I understand the competitive bidding process, but at some point it can get abusive. Lozano can just ask the teams still interested in Manny and that Manny would like to play for to submit their highest and best offer in x amount of time, then let him decide. This isn't rocket science as they say. Come on Manny for Chrissakes make a decision. We will all but kiss your ass to play here. In other words, the Sox haven't been given a number at which Machado's team said they would sign. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 (edited) 28 minutes ago, EloyJenkins said: And Jay was a good get for the money anyways $4 million? They paid him twice what he's worth. Heck he made $3 mill in 2018 and was terrible...now he gets a 33% raise. Edited January 27, 2019 by GreenSox 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxBlanco Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 9 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: In other words, the Sox haven't been given a number at which Machado's team said they would sign. Yep. And that’s why this has been described as very frustrating for Hahn. An that’s also why we shouldn’t just offer more to get this done, like some are suggesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 14 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: In other words, the Sox haven't been given a number at which Machado's team said they would sign. I think they've been given a number. I think its that Sox have talked about increases and Lozano is still sticking to his number. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saufley Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 I keep waffling back and forth between let's get it done and let's move on but, I sure would like him on my team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItsCalledComiskey Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 55 minutes ago, shipps said: I’ve been saying that the Sox should at least be engaging with Harpers people publicly to gain leverage in the Manny negotiations. They can use that. Tell Manny they only have room to sign one and they are getting closer with Harper. They kind of blew the opportunity to do that when they signed all of Mannys boys to show their commitment to him. I believe that Hahn telling the media they won't land both is him getting ready to leverage this. I wouldn't be shocked if we learn that Harper and Sox have a meeting coming up should Manny not sign soon. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxBlanco Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 1 minute ago, Saufley said: I keep waffling back and forth between let's get it done and let's move on but, I sure would like him on my team. I have never once thought we should just move on. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saufley Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 1 minute ago, SoxBlanco said: I have never once thought we should just move on. Then you have much more patience than I. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 Just now, Saufley said: Then you have much more patience than I. Move on to what exactly? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saufley Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 Just now, soxfan2014 said: Move on to what exactly? What is Hahn's Plan B? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Saufley said: What is Hahn's Plan B? Probably stay the course of the rebuild and not add any pieces. Nothing else to really add. Edited January 27, 2019 by soxfan2014 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 7 minutes ago, Saufley said: What is Hahn's Plan B? No need to cut negotiations and move on. Hahns plan b is very likely staying the course. You don’t need to move on to do that. You can wait as long as it takes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saufley Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 1 minute ago, soxfan2014 said: Probably stay the course of the rebuild and not add any pieces. Nothing else to really add. If we fail on Manny or Harper, I guess I would have to live with that and hope for the rebuild. There certainly should be some young talent that hopefully will be enjoyable to watch . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackout Friday Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, tray said: What do you make of the reported Hahn quote that Machado's agent has "not responded in kind." ? I think the White Sox are at least entitled to a counter-proposal from Lozano given all of the effort that the organization has gone to in order to attract Manny and his family to Chicago. If Lozano is just using the White Sox to leverage a higher offer, we will all be pissed off along with the White Sox ownership and management. I understand the competitive bidding process, but at some point it can get abusive. Lozano can just ask the teams still interested in Manny and that Manny would like to play for to submit their highest and best offer in x amount of time, then let him decide. This isn't rocket science as they say. Come on Manny for Chrissakes make a decision. We will all but kiss your ass to play here. I don’t think that was a Hahn quote, but more of an interpretation by the author of the article. Edited January 27, 2019 by Blackout Friday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heirdog Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 I think we can be patient because it’s not like the season or even Spring Training has started. What has Manny missed besides Sox Fest? And Jay didn’t attend either. He’s working out (w some Sox players) and doing his normal off season. I would wake up and go to bed every night feeling like the Sox have shown the most interest, have the top offer and will eventually sign Manny...unless you read otherwise from Rosethal or the like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xSouthsider2 Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 18 minutes ago, Saufley said: What is Hahn's Plan B? Jose Canseco. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 46 minutes ago, Saufley said: I keep waffling back and forth between let's get it done and let's move on but, I sure would like him on my team. Move on to what? Not like Harper is going to budge either right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuliusO1274 Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, tray said: What do you make of the reported Hahn quote that Machado's agent has "not responded in kind." ? I think the White Sox are at least entitled to a counter-proposal from Lozano given all of the effort that the organization has gone to in order to attract Manny and his family to Chicago. If Lozano is just using the White Sox to leverage a higher offer, we will all be pissed off along with the White Sox ownership and management. I understand the competitive bidding process, but at some point it can get abusive. Lozano can just ask the teams still interested in Manny and that Manny would like to play for to submit their highest and best offer in x amount of time, then let him decide. This isn't rocket science as they say. Come on Manny for Chrissakes make a decision. We will all but kiss your ass to play here. That was not a Hahn quote, that was the reporters own comment and it is based off nothing other than the fact that Machado has not accepted the White Sox offer. Edited January 27, 2019 by JuliusO1274 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 Realistically how much longer can this go on? Another month? Opening Day? Until all of us are in nursing homes? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 54 minutes ago, Blackout Friday said: I don’t think that was a Hahn quote, but more of an interpretation by the author of the article. Who knows what to believe... reports were also out that JR had a wonderful working relationship with Lozano. Shrug. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Whitesox27 said: Realistically how much longer can this go on? Another month? Opening Day? Until all of us are in nursing homes? I think spring training will cause things to accelerate. That doesn’t mean this will end by the time players are supposed to report, but my guess is Machado will not want to miss a big chunk of camp. If nothing else, it will force things to get a bit more serious. Edited January 27, 2019 by Chicago White Sox 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTruth05 Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 I was all for Sox bidding against themselves but I’ve changed my tune to the Sox are better off staying the course. Lozano’s ultimate goal to squeeze every penny he can out of an org for his client.If the Sox would just Lay it on the table and offered 350/10 i think there’s 0% chance he accepts that offer right away and we’d probably still be waiting currently while Lozano seeks $400 mil from a couple “mystery teams” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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