South Side Fireworks Man Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 I'd hope the Sox sign both, but if they only sign one, I would rather it would be Harper. There's no reason they shouldn't be the high bidder for both when all is said and done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 2 minutes ago, South Side Fireworks Man said: I'd hope the Sox sign both, but if they only sign one, I would rather it would be Harper. There's no reason they shouldn't be the high bidder for both when all is said and done. I don't think spending 70-80M annually for two players on a team thats payroll has never gone above 128M is the wisest idea. I'm happy the Sox aren't getting both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Princess Dye Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 Hahn implied in one of his comments yesterday that the Padres' interest may have been long-stemming and that Lozano has just been keeping it in his back pocket for awhile. That kind of baffles me though as I am not sure who that benefits. Players union would not love that as they surely want to get 100 free agents jobs and have the market set with the big ones signed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iWiN4PreP Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 9 minutes ago, BlackSox13 said: I don't think spending 70-80M annually for two players on a team thats payroll has never gone above 128M is the wisest idea. I'm happy the Sox aren't getting both. Seems like a defeatist attitude. Payroll is so low and inflation will allow White Sox to break that 128M by quite a bit. Market is low on Harper/Machado, now would be a great time to strike for both of them. You shouldn't be so quick to let the front office pocket the money. Let's see results. 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTruth05 Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 10 minutes ago, BlackSox13 said: I don't think spending 70-80M annually for two players on a team thats payroll has never gone above 128M is the wisest idea. I'm happy the Sox aren't getting both. I agree with you completely but I really hope the Sox are ready to blow that previous high out the water. I want 170/180 payrolls when this team is in its competitive window.of course hopefully with players that are possible final pieces for a championship and not a couple Jason Heywards 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 2 hours ago, GreenSox said: $4 million? They paid him twice what he's worth. Heck he made $3 mill in 2018 and was terrible...now he gets a 33% raise. If you want to go down the "What he's worth" discussion, then according to Fangraphs, he was worth about $6.5M last year. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 3 minutes ago, iWiN4PreP said: Seems like a defeatist attitude. Payroll is so low and inflation will allow White Sox to break that 128M by quite a bit. Market is low on Harper/Machado, now would be a great time to strike for both of them. You shouldn't be so quick to let the front office pocket the money. Let's see results. This is very short sighted. If the Sox are going to have money in the future to lock up players as well as sign future free agents then spending 70-80M annually for two players makes little sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshPR Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 12 minutes ago, iWiN4PreP said: Seems like a defeatist attitude. Payroll is so low and inflation will allow White Sox to break that 128M by quite a bit. Market is low on Harper/Machado, now would be a great time to strike for both of them. You shouldn't be so quick to let the front office pocket the money. Let's see results. How can we strike for both when it seems we can't get one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lillian Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 3 minutes ago, BlackSox13 said: This is very short sighted. If the Sox are going to have money in the future to lock up players as well as sign future free agents then spending 70-80M annually for two players makes little sense. It wouldn't be "$70 to *$80 Million annually". Isn't it more likely $65 Million to $75 Million? Nevertheless, that is a lot, for just 2 players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 8 minutes ago, TheTruth05 said: I agree with you completely but I really hope the Sox are ready to blow that previous high out the water. I want 170/180 payrolls when this team is in its competitive window.of course hopefully with players that are possible final pieces for a championship and not a couple Jason Heywards Ha ha Same here. Id rather see the sox learn from the mistakes other teams have made in the past. Just look at the wasted money in the link below. They easily could have had Harper had they spent their money more wisely in the past. https://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/CHC/chicago-cubs-salaries-and-contracts.shtml 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saufley Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 1 hour ago, Chicago White Sox said: Move on to what? Not like Harper is going to budge either right now. Earlier post. PLAN B. Whatever Mr. Hahn has planned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarava Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 Yeah, I have no problem with Hahn thinking that signing both whales is a bad idea. I mean, the Sox will probably need to sign a pitcher or two at some point. They wont be able to afford anything decent if they have 70 mil a year tied in to 2 players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 (edited) Spring Training is so long as is (especially for position players) it can honestly go up until the point where teams start playing games. Edited January 27, 2019 by soxfan2014 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 7 minutes ago, Saufley said: Earlier post. PLAN B. Whatever Mr. Hahn has planned. Which I'm guessing would be nothing. Nothing else left to add in free agency. Let in-house options compete for 5th spot and then you have someone to demote when Cease is ready. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 56 minutes ago, BlackSox13 said: I don't think spending 70-80M annually for two players on a team thats payroll has never gone above 128M is the wisest idea. I'm happy the Sox aren't getting both. Seems like Hahn feels the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFanForever Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 9 minutes ago, soxfan2014 said: Which I'm guessing would be nothing. Nothing else left to add in free agency. Let in-house options compete for 5th spot and then you have someone to demote when Cease is ready. Maybe his Plan B is a trade and not a signing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 Just now, SoxFanForever said: Maybe his Plan B is a trade and not a signing. For a long-term piece? Someone with at least say 4 years of control? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 2 hours ago, Saufley said: What is Hahn's Plan B? Stick with the rebuild. Don't spend money on mediocre free agents. That's what had the Sox stuck in mediocrity. Stars or stick with the rebuild 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 34 minutes ago, Saufley said: Earlier post. PLAN B. Whatever Mr. Hahn has planned. Damage control and praying that they look good next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saufley Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 7 minutes ago, ptatc said: Stick with the rebuild. Don't spend money on mediocre free agents. That's what had the Sox stuck in mediocrity. Stars or stick with the rebuild With the young talent within the organization the Sox had better not be stuck in mediocrity in the future. And yes with Manny, it would be nice to add a player of his caliber to our starting lineup! But geez, this is wearing me out! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 15 minutes ago, ptatc said: Stick with the rebuild. Don't spend money on mediocre free agents. That's what had the Sox stuck in mediocrity. Stars or stick with the rebuild Amen! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Springfield Soxfan Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 I don’t think Machado is coming but I agree with all that I do not want Hahn to make a move just for the sake of it. Have a plan. This could still go on for weeks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EloyJenkins Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 6 minutes ago, sox71 said: I don’t think Machado is coming but I agree with all that I do not want Hahn to make a move just for the sake of it. Have a plan. This could still go on for weeks. I would take moustakas on a cheap 2 year deal if he is available. Yolmer is super sub they get a bit more WaR in the infield. I feel bad for all the guys waiting on harpchado. Destroyed their market. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saufley Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 (edited) 42 minutes ago, sox71 said: I don’t think Machado is coming but I agree with all that I do not want Hahn to make a move just for the sake of it. Have a plan. This could still go on for weeks. So I read on MLB.com that SD wants to meet with Machado possibly in Miami. They want some face time to determine what their interest will be. If this was posted earlier, sorry. This truly could go on for weeks and weeks and weeks!! Edited January 27, 2019 by Saufley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GREEDY Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 30 minutes ago, Baron said: Damage control and praying that they look good next year. If Manny signs anywhere but here, for less than $350,000,000 I don't think they are prepared for the amount of damage control it will take. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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