TitoMB345 Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 I'm bored. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
103 mph screwball Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 Eagerly awaiting the Manny decision since before Christmas! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 1 hour ago, TitoMB345 said: I'm bored. Me too and that's why I'm enjoying a Modelo right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 I recommend trying to memorize the words to hakunamatata or reading the book of Isaiah. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capital G Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 On 1/20/2019 at 7:56 AM, Ross Gload Fan said: 10 hours ago, Chicago White Sox said: I’m guessing this is related to Joc and that Hahn agreed to a trade for him that is dependent on the Dodgers landing Realmuto without giving up Verdugo. or not landing him..... bc then they would still have verdugo and a crowded OF. IMO the best chance we have at landing Joc is if the Reds beat out the Dodgers and land Realmuto. I cant see the Dodgers getting him and not giving up Verdugo which would then make Joc useful to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saufley Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 (edited) On Groundhog Day, if Manny sees his shadow, he won't sign for another six weeks. Edited January 31, 2019 by Saufley 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, Capital G said: or not landing him..... bc then they would still have verdugo and a crowded OF. IMO the best chance we have at landing Joc is if the Reds beat out the Dodgers and land Realmuto. I cant see the Dodgers getting him and not giving up Verdugo which would then make Joc useful to them. There OF isn't too crowded. If they didn't deal Verdugo or Pederson, it would be: Pederson/Hernandez platoon in LF, Pollock CF, Verdugo RF. Toles isn't much of an MLB player, Taylor is likely the starting 2B, and I think most would expect Muncy to regress really hard next year so he's likely mostly a bench bat as well (meaning Bellinger is at 1B). They could deal one of Joc and Verdugo and I guess it would get Muncy in the lineup somewhere every day, but like I said, it depends on what they expect from him. And knowing Pollock's injury history, keeping everyone could be an option. Edited January 31, 2019 by soxfan2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yesterday333 Posted January 31, 2019 Author Share Posted January 31, 2019 7 hours ago, hi8is said: I recommend trying to memorize the words to hakunamatata or reading the book of Isaiah. I already have hakuna matata memorized... my 1.5 year old loves lion king right now (me too) and that's her favorite song... "its our prollum fweeeeee, fuhwasafeee" 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bschmaranz Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 At this point I'm just hoping to wake up tomorrow and "I got you babe" isn't playing on the alarm clock. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 41 minutes ago, soxfan2014 said: There OF isn't too crowded. If they didn't deal Verdugo or Pederson, it would be: Pederson/Hernandez platoon in LF, Pollock CF, Verdugo RF. Toles isn't much of an MLB player, Taylor is likely the starting 2B, and I think most would expect Muncy to regress really hard next year so he's likely mostly a bench bat as well (meaning Bellinger is at 1B). They could deal one of Joc and Verdugo and I guess it would get Muncy in the lineup somewhere every day, but like I said, it depends on what they expect from him. And knowing Pollock's injury history, keeping everyone could be an option. The counterpoint is they've dealt with "overload" like this every year and made it work. What you are pointing out isn't terribly different than last year, and Verdugo having options to go back and forth makes it easier. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roughneck Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 11 hours ago, BlackSox13 said: Both of us love the Norse mythology but she is really into the marvel universe. I have her to thank for getting me into the marvel movies because I had not seen any until she took me to see Thor. You got yourself a keeper there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 (edited) 8 minutes ago, bmags said: The counterpoint is they've dealt with "overload" like this every year and made it work. What you are pointing out isn't terribly different than last year, and Verdugo having options to go back and forth makes it easier. I wasn't making a point of them having too much depth. We're on the same page. Plus Muncy and Taylor both play IF and OF. With the current way the team is constructed, they could even platoon Muncy and Taylor at 2B or just have Muncy off of the bench. I do expect one of Verdugo and Joc moved, but it isn't like it needs to happen. Dealing Kemp and Puig unclogged the overcrowded OF. Edited January 31, 2019 by soxfan2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 3 hours ago, Capital G said: or not landing him..... bc then they would still have verdugo and a crowded OF. IMO the best chance we have at landing Joc is if the Reds beat out the Dodgers and land Realmuto. I cant see the Dodgers getting him and not giving up Verdugo which would then make Joc useful to them. I could see Dodgers winning with a package of Ruiz easily, especially if the "aggressive" reds package is mostly around India. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 1 minute ago, soxfan2014 said: I wasn't making a point of them having too much depth. We're on the same page. Plus Muncy and Taylor both play IF and OF. With the current way the team is constructed, they could even platoon Muncy and Taylor at 2B or just have Muncy off of the bench. Sorry gotcha. I get caught up in re-enforcing that the best teams in the league have redundancies that they aren't scared of. There is consistent discussion here about trading a guy because someone else is there, when these teams would just keep both. It may not guarantee a World Series as we've seen, but it pushes odds in your favor for competing for division by not seeing big dropoffs from injuries and slumps. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 This thread 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightsOnMintSt Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 This literally feels like it will never end. At the beginning of the winter meetings I was checking this site non-stop. Now, I just assume there will be no news, and when I do check-in, I am correct. I really think that Lozano, and Boras for that matter, are shocked that teams are not outbidding each other for their services. I would guess the offers are at least $100 million less than expected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mqr Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 So what happens if hypothetically the Sox sign Machado for, say, 175 million and it later comes out that the owners were in fact colluding to suppress salaries? Nothing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 3 minutes ago, mqr said: So what happens if hypothetically the Sox sign Machado for, say, 175 million and it later comes out that the owners were in fact colluding to suppress salaries? Nothing? In the 1980s, a fine was forced by owners that was paid out directly to the Players Association. They also allowed the players affected to look for better contracts as free agents while not terminating their current ones. If JR is caught in a collusion case again, I would hope the mlb would force him out but that's hilarious and would never happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxFanMike Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 I remember it was early December when the first rumors came out...I was supposed to be studying for my finals but I was glued to this forum/Twitter because I really thought something was going to happen then. We're now 2 months past that and nothing has changed. ??♂️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 8 minutes ago, bmags said: In the 1980s, a fine was forced by owners that was paid out directly to the Players Association. They also allowed the players affected to look for better contracts as free agents while not terminating their current ones. If JR is caught in a collusion case again, I would hope the mlb would force him out but that's hilarious and would never happen. There isn't a possibility of owners being ousted as the owners doing the colluding would need to include the Yankees, Red Sox, Dodgers and Cubs as they are the obvious ones who would be able to afford this type of contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mqr Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 1 minute ago, ptatc said: There isn't a possibility of owners being ousted as the owners doing the colluding would need to include the Yankees, Red Sox, Dodgers and Cubs as they are the obvious ones who would be able to afford this type of contract. Those are the fishiest ones for sure. I would not be at all surprised if there is some sort of handshake agreement to get and stay under luxury tax Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 1 minute ago, ptatc said: There isn't a possibility of owners being ousted as the owners doing the colluding would need to include the Yankees, Red Sox, Dodgers and Cubs as they are the obvious ones who would be able to afford this type of contract. Sure but none of those owners were involved in the collusion cases of the 80s as JR was. I mean, one of the main collusion cases was the white sox getting carlton fisk after Reinsdorf told Steinbrenner to back off. Sox getting Machado on collusion on a deal cheaper than expected after the phillies pledged stupid money? I won't blame players for thinking something was up again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsox Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 I once thought that the collusion talk would never have happened if not for the stupid contract the Marlins gave Stanton. Two other gigantic contracts to Pujois and Cabrera could be more easily rationalized. MLPBA believes that these contracts should automatically be exceeded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 3 minutes ago, oldsox said: I once thought that the collusion talk would never have happened if not for the stupid contract the Marlins gave Stanton. Two other gigantic contracts to Pujois and Cabrera could be more easily rationalized. MLPBA believes that these contracts should automatically be exceeded. So the problem is the contract for the player who is still really good and not the 2 terrible contracts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IowaPG Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 Padres meeting with Harper has to be great news for sox. Maybe manny already has his choice narrowed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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